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You are in the Dodge/Plymouth Neon
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Neon, Plymouth Neon, Sedan
Aug 21, 2000 (1:35 am)
The 2000 has lower roadholding than the 99 because the suspension is softer than the old one. So, even with larger tires and a better suspension in the way of a better more refined ride, the roadholding grip will always drop when a softer setup with more travel and a raised ride height is used. Also, the new ones use crappy Goodyear Eagle LS tires whereas the old ones used more performance oriented Eagle RS-A. The tires could be responsible for part of the drop in grip.
As far as the 0-60 being wrong, that is highly doubtful. An earlier issue tested the Plymouth Neon with a stick at 8.7 sec. The new car is heavier by almost 200 pounds while not gaining any power. That would cause the car to be slower than the old one. Anyway, the Neon and Elantra are pretty much equal in performance, so let's just leave it at that.
I do agree with you on the new R/T. That car has sweet wheels, an agressive looking front end that is much handsomer than the regular Neons, and hot looking dual chrome pipes sticking out at the back. They could have used a better looking rear spoiler, but overall, it is a sporty looking car. I wouldn't mind owning one of those, though a better engine package would have been nice (such as a turbo or larger engine instead of the slight modification to the same 2.0 SOHC engine).
I have a question for you 2000 owners. I sat in one today and was a bit annoyed with the large front pillars that seem to loom right in your field of vision and the overly long stretch of dashboard in front of you. It made the view out the car stranger (and more restrictive) than anything I remember sitting in recently. Has anyone been bothered by this and did you get used to it with time? This would be the main turn off point about buying this car for me.
#291 of 1773 Re: lngtonge18
Aug 21, 2000 (4:46 am)
The base Neon comes with Goodyear Eagle GAs, the same as the 1st gen base Neons. I'm guessing the RS-As you mention came with the R/T, ACR, maybe sport as well? The LS is a step up from the GAs, they do handle better and are quieter. I wouldn't say they suck, but there are definitely better tires for the $ out there. I will definitely go with something else when it comes time to replace them (I'll prolly stick 205s on my 15" alums).
I noticed the pillar in my test drive and found it very annoying at first. However I quickly got used to the position, and I actually like it now. Forgot about the pillar thing until you mentioned it.
Aug 21, 2000 (4:26 pm)
I've had four Neon's, a 95,98,99 and a 2000; and they have all been great.
My 2000 is the best one yet, much better then the others, I've had it since June 1999, and it has been great, a very reliable and fast car.
Don't pay attention to vocus.
#293 of 1773 Copperhead..
Aug 21, 2000 (4:54 pm)
Just because all of your Neons were perfect doesn't mean that everyone else's will be too. All cars have problems, yes, but some have more problems than others. And telling people not to pay attention to me? If you can't take the heat, then stay out of the kitchen.
#295 of 1773 Importfighter (heheheheh)
Aug 22, 2000 (4:18 am)
Hmmnn..,, lemme take a guess?
Anyway, it would'nt be so bad if there was consistency to his/her..position. But this "it sucks" and then" I really do like the car" flip flopping is what confuses me.
I mean ..,if it walks like a duck...,and quacks like a duck..., .
Well , you get my meaning.
You're a very bad boy importfighter.
#296 of 1773 Well...
Aug 22, 2000 (1:44 pm)
I do like the Neon, but really tired of it breaking down all the time. Even talked to Chrysler about poor customer service and they said it wasn't their responsibility to deal with rental cars when the car was in for service. Anyway, I am just so mad at Chrysler's level of customer service. They weren't saying all this when they were taking the money for the car though.
#297 of 1773 And Importfighter...
Aug 22, 2000 (1:42 pm)
I thought self-portraits were made for your own homepages? Why would you post it here???
#298 of 1773 copperhead1
Aug 22, 2000 (1:46 pm)
Yes, don't pay attention to vocus. Just because he's been driving a Neon for quite a while and has firsthand experience with the problems doesn't mean anything. You have to OWN a Neon to experience the poor fit-and-finish and lousy reliability best.
And vocus IS CONSISTENT. He likes everything about the car and would own one himself if not for the poor reliability and fit-and-finish.
Hey copperhead, you've had a Neon for almost every year since 1995. You don't expect ANY car to have problems in one year of ownership, even Chrysler products. Of course, some do. How are you able to give good advice to someone looking for a long-term car (>100,000 miles) when you HAVE NO CLUE how a Neon will run (or not run, as the case probably will be).
I know for a fact that my Mazda 626 lasted at least 212,000 miles with one repair that was paid for half by Mazda (even though the car was 7,000 miles out of warranty). DO you know for a fact that your Neon will last that long? I didn't think so.
One more thing; when the Neons first came out, they were everywhere. It seems as though you don't see them as often anymore. Because they are falling apart after only 5 years or less!
I know that when I got my new Intrepid in 1995, three of my neighbors had them also. Mine had this strange aversion to starting in 40-degree and below weather, and one of my neighbors' stalled all the time. Now, in 2000, all of them no longer have Intrepids, on any Chrysler product. And I see older Intrepids a lot less often, too.
Good luck with your Neon, you'll need it.
Aug 22, 2000 (1:50 pm)
I meant to say:
or any Chrysler product