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You are in the Dodge/Plymouth Neon
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Dodge Neon, Plymouth Neon, Sedan
#277 of 1773 Mobay, my friend.........
Aug 19, 2000 (6:22 pm)
Randy, as God is my witness, I did not advice heckle2 to buy a new Mazda Protege or compare a Protege to the Neon vs. Elantra. I just voiced my opinion. My advice to heckle2 was; If $10,000 OR LESS WAS THE BUDGET, heckle2 would be better off, in the long haul with a good newer/used low mileage used car. For MY 2 cents the Korean's (henkle2, specified Daewoo/Hyundai) or Dodge do not give you long term value for your money.
You are %100 correct on your feelings; about the ability for anyone to predict the 2000 Neon's build quality! Please understand, I feel you made the right choice for your own situation by going with a Neon. But,.....please understand resale value is based on the realitys of the used car market at the auto auctions and ultimately on the used car lot. Randy, there's the rub, it's not what a Neon or a Protege owner thinks their 3 or 4 year old vehicle is worth, it's the PERCEPTION of the used car buyer! We have all heard someone say; " get the Honda/Toyota they run forever!" My 2 cents only, but....unmercifully there is not much of a market for used domestic or Korean cars.
Aug 19, 2000 (6:52 pm)
What facts do I have to prove the conspiracy? Well, I dont have bar graphs or pie charts to show you, however I base my decision on several sources: auto magazines, consumer reports, and the internet. I've seen and read enough laughable garbage (such as I see on this very BB) to believe a conspiracy rings true. Who knows where it originated from, perhaps Honda or Toyota or whatever, the point is it exists for one reason or another. You say prove that there is a conspiracy, well sir can you prove otherwise based on what I've told you?
Mobay, sounds like you've got a rocker booster with those 0-60 times!! =^]
Aug 19, 2000 (7:14 pm)
Time: 15:15 pm
Check out page #163, in the Warren Commissions Report on the Neon Affair. Proof is in the half baked fruitcake.
#280 of 1773 Re: protegextwo
Aug 19, 2000 (10:27 pm)
I still think the Echo is but ugly.
I like the styling of the Jetta, just too expensive for what you get and it's interior ergonomics are really funky (I'm sure one could get used to this).
#281 of 1773 advice please
Aug 19, 2000 (10:29 pm)
im thinking of gettin a 2000 neon...will some current owners tell me of their experience with theirs and if i should really consider this car or not?
#282 of 1773 Owner experience...
Aug 20, 2000 (2:56 am)
Our Neon ES automatic was purchased 12/31/1999. It has been in the shop 4 times now for workmanship issues. Now, the trunk lining rubber split and cracked and has to be replaced. And the engine is tapping a lot harder now. Back to the dealer again I guess...
The Neons are comfortable cars with good power, nice fuel economy, and nice features and room too. BUT their reliability is not as good as the Japanese brands. Of course, the Neon is cheaper. But cheaper isn't always better.
Aug 20, 2000 (3:25 am)
When I was responding to Heckle2, I assumed she/he meant 2000 models. Therefore, I compared the 2000 Neon to the 2000 Elantra. Seeing as how the DOHC Neon is no longer available, it would be pointless to compare that engine's performance with the Elantra's. At high speeds, the old DOHC Neon can outaccelerate the Elantra. It produced its extra power only in the upper rpm range, whereas the Elantra has more low-end grunt.
Anyway, lets compare currently available models. You asked for magazine article proof, here it is (from C&D June 2000 issue): Elantra 0-60 8.3; Neon 8.8 / 0-100 Elantra 26.4; Neon 30.0 / 1/4 mile Elantra 16.6 at 84mph; Neon 16.9 at 82mph / Top gear acceleration 50-70 mph Elantra 12.0; Neon 16.1 / Roadholding Elantra .80g; Neon .79g / Emergency lane-change maneuever Elantra 61.8mph; Neon 58.1mph / Top speed Elantra governed at 119; Neon drag limited at 118. As you can see, the Elantra beat the Neon in every test. The Neon is still a very competent sporty car, but unfortunately, the new for 2000 Neons lost some of the handling directness and power advantage the old ones had in exchange for more refinement and a better ride.
Aug 20, 2000 (5:06 am)
Was that a automatic neon? Even a current 5 speed neon is good for low 16 Sec 1/4 mile times.(all articles I have seen show 7.9 to 8.3 0-60), and it is electronically limited not drag limited. Just wait the RT will be here within a month or two and then it's really all over but the crying. I bet then the focus will shift to some kind of poor performance on a crash test which will suddenly be brought up by some "new" troll drifting in here trying to decide between a Mazda of the neon (or elantra or whatever). I'm not sure why C&D got .82G's on their 99 neon test and only a .79 when the current model has bigger tires and better suspension. One thing I'll give you is the interior room of Elantra is bigger and warrenty just can't be beat. I'll also admit the performance numbers to the 2000 neon are very close, so what did you say the elantra's go for? Oh god, what am I saying?... Calm down and repeat after me... The SRT is coming, the SRT is coming, the SRT is coming...
#285 of 1773 I've got to sleep
Aug 20, 2000 (6:08 am)
Just came back (well a few hours ago) from the Open House at Howell Automotive in Keyser WV. Howell Automotive, for those who don't know, is probably the best performance reseller for Neons in the world. I say that honestly.
Anyway, there were lots of very nice Neons, and their owners. Learned a lot and the comraderie was inspiring.Got some goodies there and installed them on the spot.
Also got a speeding ticket on the way back. Hell!!
I think the Neon sucks. It has this habit of making it's driver go faster and faster.., hehehheheeh.
Oh well, I'm laughing on the outside , but crying on the inside.77MPH in a 55MPH! Gosh what a stupid sod I am.Flame me.., I deserve it/
#286 of 1773 jmn2786..........Post#295
Aug 20, 2000 (6:26 am)
I agree with you!