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#1067 of 1709 Comments of Quality issues on the 03 Model? by malibu_jack Apr 06, 2003 (6:58 am)
Any owners of the 2003 Neon or the Dodge SX2.0 in Canada? My wife and I have included it on our potential picks lists. I am concerned about potential quality issues and would like to hear any feedback from owners.
#1068 of 1709 The Neon rumors are true by thecop436 Apr 06, 2003 (9:16 am)
Basically what I see in this discussion is true by experience and or witnessing it myself, or from other neon patrons. I'm not too sure of the 03 but 02 and below have some of the same problems border round. The "suspected fish tail" you hear so much about is true. In actuality my car doesn't fish tail, It's more of a sidewind! The suspension is what causes this. In good days you will sidewind especially if you hit a nice patch of uneven or worn road and you will see exactly what I mean. My friend thinks is completely hilarious when I straddle the white line on the inside of an off ramp by the time we reach the end of it we "sidewinded" to the entire other lane. Month 2 and on was not great either. The steering staring to go, the muffler is showing extreme signs of wear and acceleration is extremely delayed and exaggerated to where if you seen my car you would assume it was a stick by the way it bows before shifting. This car is nice after all the after market goodies are applied making it a cheap car at the moment. I denied this fact after driving it brand new cause the engine break-in was more important than showing off it's power or lack of. I will give it credit for it's incredible tire spinning takeoffs at ease on dry or wet surfaces. On wet surfaces you will unintentionally spinoff from the traffic light, which is why I urge those neon patrons who experience this as well to perform tire rotations slightly ahead of the pre determined schedule in the mannual. I like to add is if you have 2 or more "Moderate" size passengers in the vehicle with you on the highway, acceleration is not going to hapen and you can watch the needle fall every 2 minutes at a steady pace(FUEL)so if you carpool with a neon you might as well get a SUV that burns 15 miles to the gallon cause you may not spend $40 at the pump each time but You will make alot more trips in the long run. The car facts were prabably determined with the driver alone in the car. In conclusion more people in a neon leads to an extreme drag in acceleration and shifting.
#1069 of 1709 2003 Neon SXT vs. R/T by speeds2much Apr 08, 2003 (10:07 pm)
Has anyone here driven both the SXT and the R/T? Any thoughts on the difference in ride and handling? According to my research, the R/T offers only 6 more lbs/torque, although with 132 vs. 150 h.p., the horsepower improvement is more noteworthy. Also, I'm wondering how compliant the ride is in the R/T...is it harsh and fatiguing, or just firm? It's not easy finding an R/T for a test drive, so advice would be helpful.
#1070 of 1709 true? by 71charger Apr 09, 2003 (1:43 pm)
I've got over three years on my 2000. I couldn't be happier. Handling is excellent. I used to drive a four person carpool in it and never had trouble getting 30mpg or better. The only thing wrong with it is it needs a new windshield as I finally got hit by one too many rocks.
#1071 of 1709 2003 Neon SXT vs. R/T - reply by iowabigguy Apr 09, 2003 (8:59 pm)
I can't tell you about the 2003 but I have a 2002 R/T. I couldn't find one on the lot, I had to special order. I got a white one with no sunroof. I have most all of the other options including leather and side airbags. The suspension is a little firmer but does not beat you to death on long trips. Leather is nice, not many ordered with that option. My dealer said it was only his second ordered that way. I paid about $15K after discounts and rebates. Window price was almost 19, my price also included a wrap around extended warranty that made the 7 year 100,000 mile power train warranty a "Maximum Care" warranty. This way if I do have any problems (ZERO so far) all it will cost me is a $100 dollar deductable for the next 7 years/100,000 miles. Getting on to your comparison I have driven an SXT and I find it to be sloppy handling compared to my R/T although the 5 speed version seemed to be almost as quick as my R/T. The R/T also include 4 wheel anti-lock disc brakes which I felt were necessary. Hope this helps!
#1072 of 1709 iowabigguy by speeds2much Apr 09, 2003 (9:12 pm)
Thanks for the input. Sounds like the R/T has been a great car for you. I owned a 2000 Neon and loved it, but sold it to move overseas. With the leather package, 150 hp engine, new engine mounts, side airbags, etc., I think the 2003 R/T is a great car for the money (esp. with the discounts you mentioned). By the way, I think Mopar offers a DVD-based sat nav system, too, so the way I see it, this car can be made into a near-luxury sports sedan for under $20,000.
#1073 of 1709 speeds2much - by iowabigguy Apr 10, 2003 (7:51 am)
I saw the Mopar DVD-based sat nav system, cool but too expensive. I have a Garmin Street Pilot III. Half the price and you can move it between vehicles. I also have a 2000 Dakota Quad cab 4.7 V8, 5 speed and 2wd. I drive this most of the time while my wife drives the 02 R/T. I use the nav system in the Dakota and the 02 R/T when we travel, it is a really nice system. It comes with street level maping for the whole US and a 128 meg memory module that you upload map data into. It will hold detailed mapping for several states at least here in the Mid West.
#1074 of 1709 speeds.... by vocus Apr 10, 2003 (8:05 am)
I think calling the Neon a near-luxury anything is wayyy to optimistic, even with every option. It's still an economy car down underneath, no matter how many options you check off.
#1075 of 1709 vocus by speeds2much Apr 10, 2003 (3:33 pm)
Yep, it's an economy car, alright. Wind and road noise, etc., but I'm actually keying off several auto reviewers...one used the term "near-luxury." I get his point, but I'd compare the car more to a BMW 2002 in its mission.
#1076 of 1709 Iowabigguy - Sat Nav by speeds2much Apr 12, 2003 (9:37 pm)
Sounds like you've done your homework on sat nav systems. Does the Garmin system cover parts of Canada, too? I have the Mopar catalogue with me now, and it mentions parts of Canada (I occasionally head to Quebec and Ontario to ski). Also mentions 10 Sirius Satellite stations included with sat nav, which is interesting...I wonder which ones. I'd probably spring for the Sirius radio, too, if it can be added to sat nav. As for taking sat nav with me, well I would plan to keep the Neon R/T until it fell apart. My idea for the car would be to pay cash for it, then sock away money until I'd saved a downpayment for a Boxster 2.7. I'm single and have no "committee" to ask regarding said plan. To me, Neon = all the car a guy really needs and a near-guarantee of someday getting (and keeping) my Porsche without ever having to strain for it. ;o)   The Neon/Dodge truck combination sounds great. So your wife likes to drive a 5-speed performance car? Does she have a single sister?

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