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#958 of 3244 Correct me if I'm wrong... by rea98d Jun 21, 2001 (1:35 pm)
But isn't the Sport Appearance Package on the Crown Vic the production equivalnet of the Blackhawk? Body-colored grille (ugly, IMO), bucket seats, floor shifter, nothing really to make it any faster than it already is.
#959 of 3244 to rea98d by jerrym3 Jun 22, 2001 (5:12 am)
The Sports Appearance Package sure does sound like what would have been the Blackhawk, but without the name and without limiting the color to only black.   I saw a CV with the Sports package at the NY autoshow. I don't believe the grille was body color, and I don't remember the car being anymore monochromatic than a regular CV. But, it was 1) locked and 2) parked in front of the Marauder, which really had all my attention. (However, I think I've seen pictures of a red CV with the Sports Package and mono grille either in a magazine or at another autoshow.)   I know what I'm going to say it blasphemy and the slings and arrows will be forthcoming, but I actually like some of the half vinyl roof treatmants that I've seen on the GM. I am not a fan of vinyl tops (I've seen a few vinyl topped LS's at the local Lincoln dealer and disliked them), but, on the GM, some of the installations have made the rear window and roofline more attractive. (The rear window is set deeper due to the padding, similar to the late 80's TownCars, and the padding covers all the ugly c-panel exposed seams.) Unfortunately, some go overboard with the opera light treament and chrome band over the b-panel and roof.   Has anyone actually sat in a CV or GM with the bucket seats? If so, how are they comfort-wise?
#960 of 3244 more seat stuff by kingfishgus Jun 22, 2001 (6:56 am)
It appears that the 2001 GM GS I rented yesterday that was built in 02/01 had a 60/40 seat that resembled buckets more than the other 2001's I had seen, although it was still a 60/40. So far I have seen 3 different seats in the GS's and also one conversion to leather a local dealer was offering. None were trure buckets yet. My 10/00 has the rounded looking 60/40 with alot of stitching, no lumbar on the passenger side. I saw a new GM GS in January which was built after my 10/00, with a lumbar on the passenger side as standard equip. Then this one built in 02/01 had a more bucket appearance with a sunken place for your rear , but with no lumbar. The 02/01 design was firmer than the 10/00 and didn't have much spring feeling in it, more like very firm foam, and alot of it. The drivers seat set up higher (even when power seat was at it's lowest position. Seems Ford has been through 3 seat designs fro 10/00 till 02/01. Just on the GS's.
#961 of 3244 Camry LE V-6 vs CV by jtw229 Jun 23, 2001 (2:12 pm)
I have a 99 LE V-6 Camry with 33k and it is a fantastic car. The CV, however, is a tempting target at $20000 new. It is finally properly powered and the safety record can't be topped, especially by a Camry that weighs 600 pounds less than a CV. I have two concerns, though. 1. I have heard many CV owners in the hot deep     south complain about weak air conditioners. 2. Reliability. I don't think anyone can assert     that the CV can beat a Camry. Maybe an ext.     warranty can offset the Camry's superior     repair record.   Has anyone out there gone from a Camry/Accord to a CV? I'd be real curious to hear your comments.
#962 of 3244 by johnbono Jun 23, 2001 (11:45 pm)
There is a problem with earlier CV AC units. I have a '95 and it doesn't get as cold as it should sometimes. I rented an '00 though, and I found the AC was fine, no problems at all.   I would not be so quick to discount the Crown Vic's reliability, though. Crown Vics have the best reliability and durability record around. The car is also *very* cheap to fix compared to a Camry or other import FWD car. Tranny work is cheap, engine work is cheap, and unlike a FWD car, there are *no* CV joints in a crown vic, and those will eventually die on just about any FWD car. I've replaced them(not exactly cheap) on an Escort, an Audi, and a Geo. The crown vic is the car the kind of American car companies should be making instead of what they ARE making.
#963 of 3244 Camry vs CV by mrf Jun 24, 2001 (3:01 am)
Welp, I went from a '95 Accord to a 2000 Grand Marquis. There were a couple of reasons for this: 1) This may seem silly to some folks, but I drive alot of miles on a daily basis over our majorily crappy Pa. roads, and the road noise level in the Accord drove me nuts. 2) Size and safety 3) Cheaper maintenance. 4) Mechanical simplicity (i.e. I can do alot more maintenance and repair myself).   I'm not going to say that a CV/GM is going to be more reliable over the life of the car than a Camry or Accord, but assuming even average reliability and not taking into account the reduced gas mileage, routine maintenance costs for the CV/GM should be lower. I know the newer imports have longer schedule than they used too, but the '95 Accord I had required tune-ups every 30k, and timing belts every 60k, in addition to fluid changes...overall, so far th GM has been a lot cheaper to keep on the road (27k so far)... Only time will tell if it is more reliable in the long run.   Oh and air conitioning: The A/C in the Accord was a constant source of headaches and trips to the dealer. The GM A/C is nice and cold and very effective (my opinion).
#964 of 3244 reliability by sergeis Jun 25, 2001 (9:08 am)
My GM '95 has been very reliable. Here is a list of things which I had to do (excluding regular oil change): '97 - replaced tape (sometimes right channel was making funny noise), under warranty '98 - changed transmission fluid 2000 - replaced front tires and they suggested front brakes, did that too. 2001 - replaced rear tires now it is due for transmission fluid change, radiator flush and fuel filter. Yes, and this year I ran over an old truck tire on inerstate, could not avoid it because of heavy traffic at 80 mph, shock was quite strong and I got a small dent and scratches on my left doors. Fixed that for $600 (paid 250, rest was insurance). Looks like new inside and out. Gas mileage is not so bad, 26-27 mpg on interstate with regular gas, for this weight, size and comfort it is truly amaizing. I have no complaints about AC, though my previous CV '81 was blowing colder air when it was 18 yrs. old. I have tried Camry and Accord, but they just seem to be lower class cars compared to CV, I mean comfort/noise/luxury. I especially did not like new Accord for its sleepy AT.
#965 of 3244 repair cost by sergeis Jun 25, 2001 (10:31 am)
Yes, and just for comparison - I also own Toyota Celica 2000, someone parked slightly into it making a dent. It did cost $2400 to fix, they had to replace the whole side panel - as they explained me at body shop japaniese cars are too thin to fix.
#966 of 3244 update on 1990 Gr Marq by craiginct1 Jun 25, 2001 (3:41 pm)
FYI: 1990 GrMarq LS we bought 4/1992 had 41k miles on it. We paid $15k including financing. It now has 241k miles, and in 9 years have put in $21k for all repairs, tires, LOF's. No ins/gas in that. Sounds like a lot of money until you figure total months and miles divided into total costs: ~$335/month total costs; ~$194/month repairs; ~15cents/mile total expense; ~9cents/mile repairs cost. We have had deer hit it, and been rearended 2x, we've maintained the car to virtually factory specs w/ virtually all OEM parts, including full paint job a year ago December to restore finish, you can't buy a new car for these repair costs. Still running well and getting 18-21mpg on road, 18 town, depending traffic and speed. Bless God for that 302 engine and sound tranny!   Glad to share MS Excel spreadsheet of repairs to anyone interested in the vehicle history. Email: cmarszearthlink.net.
#967 of 3244 Engine Imbalance? by BobL242 Jun 25, 2001 (5:39 pm)
Thinking about buying a 01 GM when my current lease runs out in august. What's the story on the engine imbalance? Is it still a problem with the gm or is there some way to avoid buying a gm with this problem? (what to look for) Would you advise against buying this car because of this problem or any of the other problems I read about on this forum. Also, does anyone know when the 2002 models will be out? Thanks for any help you can offer.

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