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#899 of 3244 kinley/Mobil 1 Oil Prices by 427435 May 10, 2001 (3:59 pm)
I've been getting Mobil l engine oil for $3.49/qt. at Walmart and just bought 5 cases of Mobil 1 ATF for $4.29/qt. I buy the ATF at a Mobil distributor/bulk dealer in a small rural town near where I live.
#900 of 3244 Trailer tow with Marquis? by oneover2wit May 10, 2001 (5:20 pm)
Contemplating vehicle purchase to tow small travel trailer. Can a 98 Gran Marq LS be equipped to do this. If so, what would be the max trailer or tongue weight?
#901 of 3244 Not Recommended by ron35 May 11, 2001 (5:52 am)
There doesn't appear to be any logic to what consumer reports has done with their recommendations. For the past 3 or 4 years, at least, they have classified the CV and GM as recommended buys. To turn around 1 year later and say it is not recommended as a 1 year old used car does not add up especially for a vehicle which has remained relatively unchanged over the years.
#902 of 3244 oneover2wit and towing by kinley May 11, 2001 (8:46 am)
Install rear air shocks if not already present. Install a 10,000 lb. transmission cooler and Install a Class III weight distributing hitch. Tongue weight = 10% of the towed vehicle. Keep an eye & nose on the tranny fluid and look into installing an extra heavy duty turn signal flasher. Have Fun.
#903 of 3244 Kinleys word on Merc tow by oneover2wit May 13, 2001 (3:29 pm)
Thanks. I'll have to figure just how "small" that trailer has to be.
#904 of 3244 Leaving TBird for CV: ...good idea?? by sandy_8 May 13, 2001 (4:30 pm)
Hi all, glad I found this board. I just got rid of my V8 Tbird (bought new) because of the endless transmission troubles (started at about 20K), and lastly the knob on the side of the gear shaft sticking so hard I couldn't even push it in and get the gear off parking mode. I lately have had to get rid of car payments in a hurry so that is the main reason why I sold my '97 Tbird most of all. I've been stuck in a rental car for 4 days now and desperately looking for something to replace my car. I am tall and safety paranoid, and I hate small cars and won't be caught dead in anything weighing less than 3,000 lbs. Becuse of my bad experience with the Tbird, I would have sworn any Ford off until I came to this board. Roominess and safety are top on my list of must haves, and I have resigned myself to let go of the nice sport look when I let go of the Tbird. My urgent need for the next 2 or 3 years is to get a personal car that is highly reliable (66 miles a day) and big and safe, and PAID FOR the second I put the key in the ignition. Budget is $5,000 or so maximum. I suddenly find myself thinking about getting a CV 94 to fit my budget and needs, but I am scared I'll get into the same trouble I just let go of with the Tbird. I miss the 4.6 V8 and would love to get it back, but I certainly don't want the transmission and other troubles that came with it back. Am I making a mistake by considering a CV? Is the transmission system exactly the same in Tbirds and CVs? Is the CV a good choice for what I want? I need an interim car that won't let me down or cost too much in repairs for 3 years or so, so I can save up for the next, newer car of choice.Any feedback appreciated. Being without a car is hell.
#905 of 3244 by rea98d May 14, 2001 (9:15 am)
Yup, transmission's the same. Sorry you had such bad luck with the Bird, but they're not all like that. I've got a 1995 T-Bird with 175,000 on it, and no major problems, transmission or otherwise. FWIW, if you can get an older Crown Victoria with the 302 engine, you'll also get an older AODE or AOD transmission, as opposed to the 4R70W hooked to the 4.6, but the AOD and AODE are essentially older, less refined versions of the 4R. If you really don't want another Ford, (and I'm going to get flamed for saying this) Look at a Caprice/Roadmaster/Fleetwood. Again, you get a full size, V-8 car with plenty of heft, as well as GM engines and transmissions, which are extremely reliable.
#906 of 3244 A suggestion for Sandy 8 by kinley May 14, 2001 (10:43 am)
Look in the Classified ads under Auctions:Private. Frequently, in the last part of the ad, the estate's vehicles will be listed. One can usually find some jewels of fine cars and trucks. They are for sale as great runners because of death and not bad quality.
#907 of 3244 thanks for the feedback by sandy_8 May 14, 2001 (12:22 pm)
I wish I had more time to see it coming, but unfortunately a week's time is all I have left to find something. I have looked all over every possible car site and local papers, but could hardly find a CV or similar sedan in the mileage/price range I need, at this time. I have thought of the Caprice and Roadmaster already (and Volvo), but same thing, incredibly hard to find. The auction seems like a good idea, but how do you manage to not get burned? I mean I never buy a vehicle without a compression test done on it first. This saved me big $$ again just a few days ago as I was about to purchase something that looked and drove apparently fine. Seems to me when you buy at auction you really don't know what you're getting, but maybe I just don't know what I am talking about... What I want doesn't exist yet (hybrid that has a wagon's cargo, a pickup truck high-road view, a sporty sedan look's cushy,powerful ride and road stability) ---this writes off SUVs in a hurry--- re98d, I think you are one of the lucky EXCEPTIONS to the Thunderbird owners rule. I don't have anything against Ford other than they are notorious for screwy transmission ---I used to have a Mercury Capri 86 that had a great transmission that never shuddered or banged (only leaked). But then, as mentioned on this board somewhere, a Ford vehicle doesn't automatically mean you get a Ford transmission inside either, so it's hard to know what you can feel confident with unless you're an expert mechanic or an auto nut. If some of you think I should look into GM instead and then have less to worry about, it's good to know. thanks!
#908 of 3244 by sergeis May 14, 2001 (1:51 pm)
I have Mercury GM '95 with ~70K on it (mostly city). This is what I had to do since I bought it: Replace tape player (bad contact), under warranty Front brakes (2 yrs. ago, too much wear) All tires (this year) Plus oil and other regular stuff.

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