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Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Exterior, Sedan
#3245 of 3300 Comparison Grand Marquis
Dec 13, 2009 (10:41 pm)
I am so disappointed since buying a 1996 Grand Marquis. I know.... it's a used car but it' has only 55,337one owner elderly lady driven miles on it with problems already. I've seen elderly ladies buy these cars and swear by them so when this one was available, I snatched it up in a hurry only to have several problems crop up within a couple of weeks. I've parked it untill I can find out more about the car from dealers and mechanics. I drive a 1993 Buick LeSabre I've owned since it had 28,400 mi on it and now over 165,000. It's still drives out like a charm. Virtually no problems other than the usual services, brakes, alternator, water pump, power steering pump etc. and not all at one time. The window motors have even gone bad on the Grand Marquis and now I learn that the plastic intake manifold goes bad at around 70,000 or so miles. Give me a break. So glad I didn't pay the new car price for one of these.
#3246 of 3300 Re: Comparison Grand Marquis [19cami57]
Dec 14, 2009 (9:09 am)
When ALL of the power windows stop, it is usually a sign of a weak battery. It may help to clean the corrosion off the terminals and cables & charge it to full strength.
There used to be a factory recall switching the plastic intake manifold out to a tin one. Maybe the previous owner has already had that done.
Determine the maintenence history from either the dealer or former owner or both.
#3247 of 3300 Re: Comparison Grand Marquis [19cami57]
Dec 14, 2009 (9:51 am)
I have a 2004 Crown Victoria with the same mileage as your LeSabre (I bought it when it was less than a year old at 19,000) and have had to change nothing major on it but the drive belt and tensioner (and the latter was my fault): original brakes, battery, exhaust, pumps/pulleys, etc. I would not call a power steering and water pump "usual" services!
These are very reliable cars in general, but there're always going to be bad examples of every car out there. The power windows and locks are notoriously cheap on Panthers, unfortunately, but like the other reply to your post, if they're ALL bad it's probably due to a central source like the battery (or maybe there's a central power distribution circuit or something?). The plastic intake is lame, but if it hasn't gone bad on you yet I wouldn't worry about it. What else has gone wrong?
Unfortunately, a 13 year old car can end up with all kinds of problems. Also, the "little old lady" isn't really the best type of person to buy a car from, despite the stereotype: such people don't drive often or far, but that alone can be bad for a car; in addition, they often do not maintain their cars mechanically because they don't want to/don't think they need to/don't think of it.
So, sorry to hear you got a bit of a money pit, but overall they're still one of the best cars out there, IMO.
#3248 of 3300 bizarre electrical issue
Dec 17, 2009 (6:46 am)
i have a 97 grand marquis with 76K miles and a possessed electrical system! we got the car in aug 04 with 25K miles and within a year it developed this most unusual problem. what happens is the voltage spikes and drops - sometimes very rapidly - and the lights flicker in concert with the varying voltage. the problem developed slowly. it first started in the fall and would only do it occasionally, a day or 2 at most and then be ok for weeks. it would stop in the late spring, be fine all summer and start up again in the fall. i have tried many things to fix it (i'll list them later) but nothing has any permanence. it is now a daily occurance and the issue has escalated to the point where it now activates the red battery warning light which flashes in time with the oscillating voltmeter. the voltage spike is quite high - approaching 16 volts. in fact sometimes the red batt light issue an audible clicking.
there's a list of what i've done in an attempt to fix the problem:
replaced all fuses, circuit breakers and relays
replaced the starter (thinking the soleniod could be the problem)
replaced the alternator many times (on the 3rd one since april)
added several ground straps
added new wire directly from alternator to battery, removing the existing wire from alternator to starter (i have read the this wire is a fusable link)
replaced sepentine belt ( this made the problem worse)
replaced the battery twice ( just a few days ago - car great great for about 50 miles)
opened and cleaned every connector i can find
cleaning the connectors had the car run good for almost a week. a second cleaning had not effect
i desperation i went to my local mechanic ( i worked for him many years ago). he had the car for a day, told me it was fixed (the stator wire connection) charged me 40 bucks. as soon as i drove away it acted up again. his opinion is to rebuild the alternator though him or "keep going to advance. sooner or later you will get a good one from them"
i had advance check the alternator on the car. voltage high 15's - 75 amps, battery was good but low on charge(this prompted me to replace the battery a week ago)
they replaced the alternator. made no difference in the problem.
i called ford and even discussed the problem with a local ford dealer's service manager but they were of no help. they claim they have never heard of any cars with this problem. i just cannot bring myself to take this to the dealer.
so, can ANYONE out there help me? i am at my wit's end and really dread the thought of turing this over to a dealer.
#3249 of 3300 Re: 2001 Grand Marquis [whitpg22]
Feb 07, 2010 (6:26 pm)
I just bought a '92 GM with a manufacture date of 11/91 from my neighbor. The car only has 54,000 miles on it. The car shifts fine for gears 1-3 but the overdrive went out in it some time ago. The lady who had it was elderly and literally drove it only one mile each way to church and 3 miles each way to the grocery store. Could the fact that the car never went out on the road periodically for several miles be a contributor to the o/d going out? What are the solutions? Otherwise the car is fine.
#3250 of 3300 Re: 2001 Grand Marquis [monticellorob]
Feb 07, 2010 (7:36 pm)
If the transmission never got in O/D, the onboard computer may be stuck. First, I would try disconnecting the Negative terminal of the battery and let it sit disconnected overnight. Before reattaching the cable, clean both terminals and cables. This may reset the computer enabling it to shift into O/D.
Check the volume of oil in the transmission & add if low.
If that doesn't work, change the oil in the transmission and torque converter. It should have been done at 30,000 miles anyway. Good luck.
#3251 of 3300 heavy load on MGM
Mar 10, 2010 (7:26 am)
I have just had an electric lift installed (2003 Grand Marquis), for purpose of hauling an electic scooter, due to disability. I estimate the additional weight to be less than 400 lbs--maybe considerably less. However, the outfit extends several feet out behind the car, adding to the arm/leverage exerted.The car's ride is now very hard, with rear end sitting very low, and headlights shining higher in the air.
I've read previous posts, but am somewhat confused by the array of terminology that seems to be used interchangeable. Please inform me as to what is available to help counter this situation? If the problem-solver levels the car, will it affect the comfort level of the ride either way?
Please also consider that the load is not on the car on every trip it takes.My wife often drives it, and does not need the scooter.
Thanks for your help.
#3252 of 3300 Re: heavy load on MGM [seer1]
Mar 10, 2010 (10:11 am)
If you mean you have installed air shocks powered by an electric motor -
Were they installed on the rear axle? If so, there is usually a "level" sensor that keeps the rear end level with and or without the load of the scooter.
Have your mechanic adjust the Level sensor and if there is an "Off/On" switch, leave it "ON". When always "ON" the compressor may power up the air shocks while the car is just sitting in the garage, but not to worry.
If the car is driven infrequently, an external battery charger may be of value.
#3253 of 3300 towing capacity 2008 grand marquis
May 22, 2010 (12:48 pm)
I noticed there was a 500 lb drop in towing capacity between 2006 and 2007. I would like to know what changed on these cars to lower the rate or was it just a paper deal. They havent changed much on these cars. I dont think it is engine frame or transmission, I did notice there was a change in rear suspension part numbers between these years. Is that it? Can I do any ad ons to get that 500 lb back?
#3254 of 3300 Re: towing capacity 2008 grand marquis [kenboy2]
May 23, 2010 (1:03 pm)
It is an increased effort to con us into buying their more profitable trucks. I have been towing a 3,000 lb boat'/trailer for 16 years on a Town Car rated for 1,000#'s. All I did was add a transmission cooler and away we go.