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#2690 of 3244 Spared? by turbo301 Sep 12, 2005 (7:15 pm)
I just heard on the news that Ford of Canada and the CAW have reached a tentative agreement that will see, not the St. Thomas assembly plant close as was rumoured, but actually a $200 million investment in the plant to make "new Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis models". I don't know if this means new editions of the existing platform or totally new vehicles, but either way it's good news for us Panther fans! Replies to this message: ehaase (Sep 12, 2005 11:57 pm) turbo301 (Sep 13, 2005 5:12 pm)
#2691 of 3244 Re: Spared? [turbo301] by ehaase Sep 12, 2005 (11:57 pm)
Replying to: turbo301 (Sep 12, 2005 7:15 pm) $200 million is barely 10 percent of the amount needed for a new platform, so I am sure that the money will be invested in a modest update or improvements in the manufacturing process for these cars. Replies to this message: turbo301 (Sep 13, 2005 5:12 pm)
#2692 of 3244 Power Window Regulator/Motor by ragdollgirl Sep 13, 2005 (12:07 pm)
I decided not to try to fix my '94 GM's window motor and regulator myself. Not sure enough of myself to know how to do it. My regular mechanic wanted $475 (estimate) to do the job. I just about croaked. I told him I'll just tape it shut. Still had to pay him $75 (1 hour's labor) for tearing it apart and checking the wires, etc.) Then I asked another mechanic that my parents use and he found used parts that will cost me $95 and $100 labor to install them. Needless to say, he got the job. I just hope the used parts are not so used, they have no life left in them. My car has 202K miles so I'll take the chance. Do you think I should just buy new parts over the internet and ask him to put them in for me? Replies to this message: euphonium (Sep 13, 2005 12:25 pm)
#2693 of 3244 Re: Power Window Regulator/Motor [ragdollgirl] by euphonium Sep 13, 2005 (12:25 pm)
Replying to: ragdollgirl (Sep 13, 2005 12:07 pm) Yes, as most of the cost in your repair is labor.   Applying used parts in your case would make as much sense as putting a dirty diaper on a clean bottom.
#2694 of 3244 Ewww by pat HOST Sep 13, 2005 (12:57 pm)
#2695 of 3244 Re: Spared? [ehaase] by turbo301 Sep 13, 2005 (5:12 pm)
Replying to: ehaase (Sep 12, 2005 11:57 pm) Ford shouldn't need a whole new platform for the Panther for a while, given that the frame, steering hardware, etc. was new in '03. $200 million should be more than enough to at least update the body and interior, and perhaps differentiate the GM a bit more from the CV. I was surprised that Ford chose not to move the Town Car to the assembly line; it's hard to think of a closer product that could be included on the line to help boost work there.   Regardless of what the money is used for, it's good to know tha the CV/GM will be around for at least a few more years!
#2696 of 3244 but by johnclineii Sep 13, 2005 (5:16 pm)
Do not assume the Town Car will continue in production as a Panther..... Replies to this message: turbo301 (Sep 15, 2005 4:39 pm)
#2697 of 3244 1996 Grand Marquis by gkarg Sep 14, 2005 (5:22 am)
I am going to look at a 96 and would appreciate input from owners of that year for any feedback on problems or issues.   There was an oil issue on early 90's models with the 4.6L engine and something with the valve guides or whatever. Was that solved by 96? Are there any other issues to know about?   THANKS!   PS - in regard to death rates. I'm sure that the age demographic of the individuals driving the CV/GM has a lot to do with the death numbers. How many driver's have heart attacks or other natural causes, at the wheel and either die before the crash even happens. I'm sure that we can't really understand the "statistics" and fairly weigh them against a Hyundai Accent - where the death rate probably has more to do with the size/structure of the vehicle. Replies to this message: euphonium (Sep 14, 2005 10:11 am)
#2698 of 3244 Re: 1996 Grand Marquis [gkarg] by euphonium Sep 14, 2005 (10:11 am)
Replying to: gkarg (Sep 14, 2005 5:22 am) Are there any other issues to know about?   Check the intake manifold. Maybe it has been replaced and maybe not. Something about it cracking and causing coolant to escape.   The transmission oil could need replacing including the turbine oil.
#2699 of 3244 Re: but [johnclineii] by turbo301 Sep 15, 2005 (4:39 pm)
Replying to: johnclineii (Sep 13, 2005 5:16 pm) I'm assuming that Ford initially built the downsized Town Car elsewhere in an attempt to convey some sort of exclusivity or quality; you know, keep it away from the plebian GM/CV and it's somehow a better-built car. Such a situation reminds me of the way Chrysler put all sorts of extra effort into the bustleback Imperial in order to keep quality high (a noble goal which failed miserably, of course). Anyway, whether or not that's true, I would be surprised if Ford changed the Town Car much before the CV/GM get a major redo. Just like police fleets, taxi/limo fleets know what they like, and the current TC is a honey for this purpose (soooo comfy!). Perhaps once the CV/GM get an extensive makeover, Ford will take the opportunity to bring the TC into the St. Thomas fold. It might be too expensive to move the established product at this point in its life.

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