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3244 messages, Last post on Aug 25, 2009 at 8:13 PM
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I think the handling package has the 3.27 gear ratio - the non Handling Package has the 2.73. My sense is the handling package knocks about 2 mpg off of the fuel economy.
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Replying to: joe3716 (Aug 25, 2005 10:21 am) |
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Recently purchased a used 2004 GM ultimate. I have noticed a whine (i am assuming the auto trans.). Very evident just before it shifts from 1st to 2nd gear. Starts off as a a low pitch and increases with speed until shifting, then quiet until around 50 mph and starts again, only under acceleration. Let your foot off the gas and noise disappears. When I bought the car (30,000 miles) I had the dealership (not ford or merc), perform the 30K maintenance which included the tranny fluid change. Receipt says they use Mercon. I checked the fluid level and is correct and looks clean. Any suggestions before I bring it to the dealer (still under warranty..)? Thanks |
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You are correct on the rear end ratios...my 04 LX Sport has the 3.27 rear, which is probably why I cannot exceed 22 mpg highway, but I know of CVs and Town Cars who get 25-28 mpg highway, but probably have 2.73 rear for better high end rpm and mpg...since the car has no tach, I cannot measure... 
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Does anybody know if Ford fixed the gas tank in 2005 Crown Victorias / Grand Marquis ? If you search on Google "Crown Victoria fire" you get lots of articles like: http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/purchases.html http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/ http://www.autosafety.org/getcat.php?cid=34 where you can read awful things about these cars exploding and killing anybody inside, when hit in the back. I'd like to have an old style heavy car, but these articles scared me from buying a Grand Marquis. Does somebody have some official Safety data, not from Ford, and not just feelings like "my CV/GM is the greatest of all and I love it" ? Thanks.
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Carefully read the stories on those accidents - typically involves someone rear-ending a stationary Crown Vic at speeds exceeding 60 mph. In a morbid viewpoint, the fact the driver of the stationary Crown Vic even survived the collision for fire to be an issue tells you about the stoutness of the car. Typically in these accidents the tank is pierced by something that penetrates the rear wall of the trunk and into the gas tank (that is why there is no folding seat option). Storage of objects to prevent this has reduced this effect. Statistically there the Panther platform is no more likely to catch fire in an accident than any other platform. In fact, if you go to the Insurance Institute of Highway safety website and check out the injury ratings for vehicles, the Grand Marquis is the 3rd lowest of any four door sedan sold in the United States. The reason you see all the media attention about this is lawyers look for any feature that makes a car unique, and tries to make that the cause of any injuries. The Panther is the only body on frame sedan sold in the United States, and they think they can persuade a jury using that fact.
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Replying to: jsylvester (Aug 28, 2005 11:55 am) Physics tends to dictate that ANY vehicle hit at a high closing speed will suffer pretty catastrophic damage. Because police duty tends to involve more dangerous situations, it should come as no surprise that their cars are involved in so many terrible accidents. The same would be true regardless of the cruisers they use, but you can't tell me that an Aveo cop car would fare better than a CV if it was whacked in the butt by a transport truck  .
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Replying to: turbo301 (Aug 28, 2005 2:54 pm) CV's and GM's are still amongst the safest vehicles on the road. Period. |
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What makes the CV unique is not the body-on-frame, which is definitely an extremely good thing (for me). The unique feature is the fact that the gas tank is in the crash zone BEHIND (not in front of) the rear axle. And those bolts who punctures it. The car looks extremely nice (and it will look the same for eternity). Still, both my wife's Chrysler Pacifica and my Honda Accord have the gas tank shielded between the axles. jsylvester, I cannot find the injury ratings for vehicles at IIHS. Can you please type the web address and the links I should click on ? At: http://www.iihs.org/srpdfs/sr4003.pdf The Mercedes E class look to have the overall driver death =10, and the CV&GM have 53+83 = 136, which is not far from the Hyundai Accent ! Thanks |
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Very good find of information. I was using the link below for injury rates in making my statement: http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ictl/ictl_4dr.htm Hard to say why the death rate is different between the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis. One could hypothosize, but it would be conjecture. With identical vehicles, could it be the drivers? |
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