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#2671 of 3244 Re: spark plug blowout [way2old] by mauro1 Aug 24, 2005 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: way2old (Aug 23, 2005 4:10 pm) Thanks a million buddy, I went and got the kit today and after 31/2 hours of work I installed the plug. I was afraid to turn on the ignition switch but the engine started right away. To clean the shavings I used my wife's vacum machine. I also glued the helicoil to the head so that I can change the plug in the future. I will avoid for sure removing the plugs with a warm engine. Thank you again. Replies to this message: lsavage317 (Aug 02, 2006 6:14 pm)
#2672 of 3244 Re: starting problem [mr5x5] by joe3716 Aug 25, 2005 (10:21 am)
Replying to: mr5x5 (Aug 19, 2005 12:15 pm) Haven't had any starting problems since the car got back from the dealership as I drive the car everyday. Maybe I should sit the car in the garage and leave it for four or five days then see if it will start. have the feeling that the problem is in the fuel or some vacuum systems or in the modular control? Thanks for your tip about the floor mat which I shall try even tho my floor mat never gone up under the dash. No one else drive my GM-LS since new. speaking of fuel consumption and mpg. i get 22/23 freeway to Vegas and 16 or 17 in stop and go city traffic. my GM-LS is a V-8, handling package with the 2.75 final drive. am happy with the mpg. Replies to this message: turbo301 (Aug 26, 2005 12:23 pm)
#2673 of 3244 MPG by jsylvester Aug 25, 2005 (6:30 pm)
I think the handling package has the 3.27 gear ratio - the non Handling Package has the 2.73. My sense is the handling package knocks about 2 mpg off of the fuel economy. Replies to this message: joe3716 (Aug 30, 2005 9:29 am) turbo301 (Aug 31, 2005 2:26 pm)
#2674 of 3244 Re: starting problem [joe3716] by turbo301 Aug 26, 2005 (12:23 pm)
Replying to: joe3716 (Aug 25, 2005 10:21 am) A handling package-equipped car with a 2.75 rear end? What vintage is your GM? I thought that low 3s were about as tame as the handling package ever got...
#2675 of 3244 2004 GM ultimate tranny whine problem by digger91258 Aug 27, 2005 (6:27 am)
Recently purchased a used 2004 GM ultimate. I have noticed a whine (i am assuming the auto trans.). Very evident just before it shifts from 1st to 2nd gear. Starts off as a a low pitch and increases with speed until shifting, then quiet until around 50 mph and starts again, only under acceleration. Let your foot off the gas and noise disappears. When I bought the car (30,000 miles) I had the dealership (not ford or merc), perform the 30K maintenance which included the tranny fluid change. Receipt says they use Mercon. I checked the fluid level and is correct and looks clean. Any suggestions before I bring it to the dealer (still under warranty..)?   Thanks
#2676 of 3244 jsylvester by marsha7 Aug 27, 2005 (5:35 pm)
You are correct on the rear end ratios...my 04 LX Sport has the 3.27 rear, which is probably why I cannot exceed 22 mpg highway, but I know of CVs and Town Cars who get 25-28 mpg highway, but probably have 2.73 rear for better high end rpm and mpg...since the car has no tach, I cannot measure...
#2677 of 3244 Fire cause solved ? Pinto still alive ? by rodut Aug 28, 2005 (10:39 am)
Does anybody know if Ford fixed the gas tank in 2005 Crown Victorias / Grand Marquis ? If you search on Google "Crown Victoria fire" you get lots of articles like:   http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/purchases.html http://www.crownvictoriasafetyalert.com/ http://www.autosafety.org/getcat.php?cid=34   where you can read awful things about these cars exploding and killing anybody inside, when hit in the back. I'd like to have an old style heavy car, but these articles scared me from buying a Grand Marquis.   Does somebody have some official Safety data, not from Ford, and not just feelings like "my CV/GM is the greatest of all and I love it" ?   Thanks. Replies to this message: spotbearsd (Aug 29, 2005 8:48 pm) turbo301 (Aug 31, 2005 2:22 pm)
#2678 of 3244 Rear Fires by jsylvester Aug 28, 2005 (11:55 am)
Carefully read the stories on those accidents - typically involves someone rear-ending a stationary Crown Vic at speeds exceeding 60 mph. In a morbid viewpoint, the fact the driver of the stationary Crown Vic even survived the collision for fire to be an issue tells you about the stoutness of the car. Typically in these accidents the tank is pierced by something that penetrates the rear wall of the trunk and into the gas tank (that is why there is no folding seat option). Storage of objects to prevent this has reduced this effect.   Statistically there the Panther platform is no more likely to catch fire in an accident than any other platform. In fact, if you go to the Insurance Institute of Highway safety website and check out the injury ratings for vehicles, the Grand Marquis is the 3rd lowest of any four door sedan sold in the United States.   The reason you see all the media attention about this is lawyers look for any feature that makes a car unique, and tries to make that the cause of any injuries. The Panther is the only body on frame sedan sold in the United States, and they think they can persuade a jury using that fact. Replies to this message: turbo301 (Aug 28, 2005 2:54 pm) esfoad (Aug 29, 2005 4:25 am)
#2679 of 3244 Re: Rear Fires [jsylvester] by turbo301 Aug 28, 2005 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: jsylvester (Aug 28, 2005 11:55 am) Nicely said. The fact that CVs/GMs have had their gas tanks in the same basic spot since '79, and yet these allegations of poor design have only recently surfaced, is further proof that there are some individuals and police departments looking to make some quick money. What is ironic is that, if all of this bad press costs the life of the CV, those same police departments that sued will probably the first to whine about a lack of a good replacement (let's face it, the Charger really isn't well-suited to police duty).   Physics tends to dictate that ANY vehicle hit at a high closing speed will suffer pretty catastrophic damage. Because police duty tends to involve more dangerous situations, it should come as no surprise that their cars are involved in so many terrible accidents. The same would be true regardless of the cruisers they use, but you can't tell me that an Aveo cop car would fare better than a CV if it was whacked in the butt by a transport truck . Replies to this message: esfoad (Aug 29, 2005 4:25 am)
#2680 of 3244 Re: Rear Fires [turbo301] by esfoad Aug 29, 2005 (4:25 am)
Replying to: turbo301 (Aug 28, 2005 2:54 pm) All true. In fact, everybody knows the reputation of Mercedes Benz. Unfortunately and tragically n MB E class sedan was rear ended on the George Washington or Tappan Zee bridge within tha last year, caught fire and the family of 4 inside were burned to death. Physics is still the determining factor. There are some events that cannot be engineered out, no matter what the lawyers say. CV's and GM's are still amongst the safest vehicles on the road. Period.

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