- #2572 of 3244
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Re: hmmmm [turbo301]
by basils
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Jul 05, 2005 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: turbo301 (Jul 05, 2005 8:16 am)
The easiest way to "toughen up" a car is the following....in no particular order.
1. Front end more angular and aggressive.
2. Same with rear.
3. Beefier looking tires and more utilitarian/hotrod/sinister wheels.
4. Add horsepower.
5. Advertise the heck out of it.
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- #2573 of 3244
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Re: About the R&H Package: [justiceisdead]
by bruneau1
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Jul 05, 2005 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: justiceisdead (Mar 11, 2000 9:55 pm)
The handling package may be a little too firm for tradtionalists, and it produces some jiggles. A no-no is a car like the Marquis. Too bad all the other good stuff in the package doesn't come with the standard suspension which is more liveable. Of course, the solid rear axle needs to be replaced with a modern independant set up.
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- #2574 of 3244
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Re: About the R&H Package: [bruneau1]
by basils
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Jul 05, 2005 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Jul 05, 2005 2:30 pm)
I had a 2001 Crown Vic LX (lost in divorce). Recently I test drove an '05 LX Sport and didn't really notice any difference in quality of ride. I'm real picky too, so I was surprised. Does anybody else out there really notice a jittery or harsher ride with the sport package?
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- #2575 of 3244
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Re: About the R&H Package: [bruneau1]
by turbo301
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Jul 06, 2005 (3:49 am)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Jul 05, 2005 2:30 pm)
I don't know, I think that the solid axle has its place, and that place is under a car like the CV/GM. Just look what Ford has accomplished with the new Mustang's setup; that is proof enough that just because a configuration is old doesn't mean that it has to remain out of date... kind of like rear-wheel drive and full-framed cars! I'm not sure how close the current Panther's rear is to the new 'stang's, but it would be an interesting experiment to drop it in and see (appropriately sized-up for the car, of course  ).
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- #2576 of 3244
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2000 Grand Marquis-noise under brake pedal
by havehadit
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Jul 07, 2005 (6:35 am)
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When brake pedal is pushed there is a squeaking or squishing sound, like rubber rubbing against rubber. I've been under the dash and seems like the sound is coming from inside the flexible rubber boot. I tried some WD40 but didn't help. A mechanic yesterday said it could be the plunger going into the master cylinder. The noise is very irritating but I don't care to spend money unless the cause can be identified. Has anyone experienced this problem? Responses would be appreciated. Thanks, havehadit
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- #2577 of 3244
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Handling Package
by frasierdog
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Jul 08, 2005 (8:15 am)
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"The handling package may be a little too firm for tradtionalists"
The handling package adds:
- Rear air springs - not firmer, allows load leveling in rear, big people or towing.
- Duel exhaust - more power.
- Larger sway bar - better handling - not a firmer ride.
- Upgraded front bushings - better handling
- Lace wheels - looks only
- Different shocks - reduces the floaty ride.
This only makes the car more driveable.
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- #2578 of 3244
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Re: Handling Package [frasierdog]
by turbo301
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Jul 08, 2005 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: frasierdog (Jul 08, 2005 8:15 am)
While I agree that the handling package is a desirable option, to say that the added parts do not affect the ride is questionable. Anything that affects the compliance of the vehicle with respect to road imperfections will, by their very nature, affect the ride quality. The lower profile tires that come with those lacy wheels will give better handling, but will also absorb less bump energy, and instead transmit it to the wheels, and thus the suspension, and thus the rest of the car; the upgraded front bushings will make the suspension parts less compliant to bumps, and the different shocks obviously reduce ride quality by again transmitting more of the bump energy to the car's structure. It is a very careful balance to get good ride quality and handling, but there is always a trade off.
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- #2579 of 3244
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Re: Handling Package [frasierdog]
by euphonium
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Jul 08, 2005 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: frasierdog (Jul 08, 2005 8:15 am)
Our Lincoln Town Car was on the sales lot for over six months because "traditional" Lincoln drivers wanted their cushy ride. We eventually bought the "Handling Package" Signature for 24% off MSRP. It had Goodyear GA tires and it cornered like a locomotive, but when crossing the RR tracks it was and is still not smooth. It rides very well on smooth pavement, but on city streets you can feel every crack in the pavement. I switched to Michelin X tires and that helped soften the blows a little. In summary, the Handling Package makes the car more driveable, but a lot less comfortable.
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- #2580 of 3244
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Re: Handling Package [euphonium]
by frasierdog
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Jul 08, 2005 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jul 08, 2005 8:48 am)
A Town Car with a handling package would still be about 60x softer ride than a Corvette.
For that true isolation from the road feeling, try the sofa.
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- #2581 of 3244
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1994 Grand Marquis - Water inside!
by jkirk
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Jul 08, 2005 (11:40 am)
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I have just been given my in-laws 94 GM. It has sat in driveway for a year. Speedometer works, Odometer and tripmeter do not. I need these fixed as I plan to use the car and know it's not legal to operate with this problem. Help? Also, after driving with AC on Max, water accumulates on passenger side floorboard, mostly in back (an inch deep). Yesterday, I only used AC on Norm, and the carpet is already dry. Any ideas? Lastly, is there a good maintenence/repair book available on this car--like Chilton's?
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