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Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Exterior, Sedan
Jun 19, 2005 (12:49 pm)
Ford has agreed to settle lawsuits filed agaist it due to cracking intake manifolds on certain 1996-2001 4.6L engines. The engines are found in: Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, Lincoln Town Car, Mustang, Cougar and Thunderbird models. The settlement could impact over 2 million vehicles and cost Ford up to $375 million USD.
The plastic intake manifolds Ford used were plastic and were nortorious for cracking, thus causing coolant leaks.
The terms of the settle include:
• Ford will reimburse customers with receipts for the intake repair.
• Ford will pay $735.00 to those without receipts, provided that they can verify with a dealership that a repair was made.
• Ford will extend the warranty coverage for customers whose intakes have not failed.
Ford lost an appeal earlier in the year to have the case dismissed.
#2533 of 3300 Check Engine Light, How to Diagnose
Jun 19, 2005 (6:07 pm)
My 02 GM with 53K just activated the CE light tonight. Is there anyway to determine what went haywire without making an appointment at a repair facility and spending 80.00 for the diagnosis?
Should I be concerned, or can I let this go an few days?
I read somewhere that some parts stores will do a free/low cost while you wait scan , hoping of course that you'll buy the parts from them.
Again the car seems to be running fine and this light just poped on and stayed on as we started the car.
Any help would be appreciated
#2534 of 3300 Re: [euphonium]
Jun 19, 2005 (6:13 pm)
In regards to the Class Action suit and cracked intake manifolds.
Can you provide any link for more information and remedys
Jun 19, 2005 (8:03 pm)
Autozone will do a free code scan.
The check engine light covers so many things - it is a noncritical issue, but you shouldn't go for months with it lit. If it was me, I'd check the gas cap, and then make a stop at Autozone to see what codes are thrown.
#2536 of 3300 Re: [ksjo30] The link is:BlueOvalNews.com
Jun 20, 2005 (8:59 am)
Jun 24, 2005 (5:08 pm)
I was wondering what drivers of late-model CVs and GMs are finding they get in terms of gas mileage. I have been steadily improving mine; even with the A/C going virtually all of the time, combined city/highway (although mostly highway) I'm getting about 23.7 mpg; this week I went 596 km without having to fill up, netting me a cool 26 mpg! These numbers impressed me quite a bit. Although not Toyota Echo territory, I couldn't ask for more from a 4000 lb, V8 sedan that does not feature any sort of cylinder deactivation (thank God ).
Jun 24, 2005 (6:35 pm)
I purchased my 2004 CV (LX Sport, dual exhaust, 239 HP) on August 1, 2004...coming up on 1 year, 20,800 miles, so I think I am broken in...have yet to exceed 22 mpg on highway, tried 87, 89, 93 octane, no difference in performance or mpg...kinda disappointed, really...sticker said 17/25, and I personally know of folks with late model Town cars who obtained 27-28 mpg with all highway running...75% of my driving is interstate...AC on or off, no matter...should I trade for a Honda Civic???...
#2539 of 3300 Re: turbo301 [marsha7]
Jun 24, 2005 (7:30 pm)
Hmmm, it is surprising that you haven't been able to get a bit better mileage than that; that's more on par with my '85 GM. Of course, every car is a bit different. It's interesting to know, though, so thanks for replying.
Just me personally, but I would never trade a CV for a Civic . At least up here in Canada, every second car is a Civic!
BTW do you find that the middle portion of your gas tank - i.e. the range from one quarter to three quarters - is your best mileage zone? In other words, I find that the top quarter of the tank seems to get drained very quickly, while the quarter to three quarter range lasts forever.
#2540 of 3300 LX Sport Gas Mileage
Jun 24, 2005 (8:38 pm)
I think what is hurting you is the different rear end gearing - 3.27 vs. 2.73 for the LX and Base models. I think that is it, since my 94 has the 3.08 rear end, and it is pulling around 24-25 mpg on the freeway. Also, my understanding is the 03 redesign added weight to the car via a heavier frame.
If you considered swapping rear end gearings, you also have to consider the computer and speedo issues. It can be done, but not sure how much it would cost you.
#2541 of 3300 Re: turbo301 [turbo301]
Jun 25, 2005 (4:21 am)
As for that range on the gage being the best mileage zone? Nope, it's just the way the gage is calibrated. Most gages are similar. They are meant to provide feedback to the driver as expected, not actually reflect the exact amount of gas in the tank.
One big difference, though. When a General Motors gage first says empty, you usually have about 5 gallons left. When a Ford gage first says empty, you had better find a gas station...and quickly.