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More tranny problems than in past? by bigunit67
Jun 10, 2005 (11:35 am)
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One of my best friends works for the highway patrol and has stated that they seem to be having much more trouble with the transmission on later model CV's than what they used a few years ago. Knowing that Ford hasn't done any makeovers of the tranny, I was wondering if "regular" users were noticing that same problem.
 
Now, I realize that those guys and gals do things none of us would probably want to with our cars, but even given that he states that they're having a lot more 25,000-35,000 mile replacements of the tranny whereas they usually made it to the 50,000 mile mark (when they sell them at auction).
 
HOPING that Ford will update this car soon (3 valve 4.6 and a few other upgrades) I'd consider myself in the future market for one, but if the tranny's are becoming more suspect that is definitely something to watch out for.
 
Just curious, what say you all?
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Re: More tranny problems than in past? [bigunit67] by turbo301
Jun 10, 2005 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: bigunit67 (Jun 10, 2005 11:35 am)

I suppose that I don't have enough experience under my belt to provide much help, but I bought a 2004 Crown Vic (ex rental, and rentals aren't usually treated with much respect) with about 19,000 km on it and everything seems to be working fine. The transmission is smooth, the colour of the fluid is nice and rosy, and power is transferred to the pavement with aplomb. My friend has a 2002 Grand Marquis with a very hard 100,000 km on it, and its transmission is also in good order. Could your cops have gotten a bad batch?
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Crown Vic Car Cover by skysba
Jun 12, 2005 (8:14 am)
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Hi!
 
Which car cover do you guys recommend? The Ford one runs about $230 which I heard is what good and customized car covers cost.
 
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Crown Vic Car Cover [skysba] by basils
Jun 13, 2005 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: skysba (Jun 12, 2005 8:14 am)

I need some help on ordering an '06 in a couple of months. I found out that they aren't making any real changes to the car until '07 except for the antenna being placed into the back window, and a couple of option changes. One new color being added is Tungsten Clearcoat Metallic. Does anybody know if this is a light or dark grey? Also, my main question,,,,,when you order the handling and performance package for an LX (not sport) model, do you retain the chrome body pieces? Also, is the horsepower increased from 224hp to 239hp when you order this package, or is it just going to improve the handling? I know that they give you dual exhausts with this package so is that what increases the HP output? I ask these questions because the Ford sites are very confusing about it and say that ONLY the LX Sport has the available high output 239hp 4.6 engine.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Handling package and such by turbo301
Jun 13, 2005 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: basils (Jun 13, 2005 5:10 am)

As far as I know, at least for now, the Crown Vic LX can get the handling package, which indeed includes the dual exhaust which boosts the car's output to 239 hp. They only quote the higher hp for the LX Sport because they want you to believe that you're getting something extra when you fork out for the Sport . I'm still amazed that a factory dual exhaust system can boost hp by more than 10... I've heard that it really doesn't make that big a difference.
 
I'm quite sure that if you get an LX with the handling package, you retain the chrome accents.
 
Also, isn't the antenna in the rear window now, too? It looks like my 2004 LX has a rear window antenna.
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Re: Handling Package and HP by batista
Jun 13, 2005 (4:40 pm)
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The Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis is a joke to have only 224-239 HP. It was acceptable until about 2001. The Honda Accord V6 puts out 240 HP (starting in 2002) and from a SOHC 3.0L while the CW/GM requires a 4.6L V8.
When is Ford going to update these engines? They need to up the HP to 300 to get respect from their customers. The 2006 Toyota Avalon puts out 280HP from a 3.5L V6 and so does the Infinity engines.
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but by johnclineii
Jun 13, 2005 (4:54 pm)
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(Note to self: same person will be complaining about the poor fuel economy when gas starts selling for four dollars a gallon or more...)
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Re: Handling Package and HP [batista] by basils
Jun 13, 2005 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: batista (Jun 13, 2005 4:40 pm)

batista,
In all fairness my friend, you're not really accurate. Have you ever driven both? I did, in the same hour as a matter of fact. The V-6 in the 2006 Avalon does have great horsepower output, but this is at a higher rpm than a Crown Vic. When I drove the Avalon I noticed that it did have good power at higher rpm, but it lacked torque of any kind. The Toyota didn't even compare at all with the Vic when it came to the smoothness and quiteness department either. My wife even noticed it and she doesn't know a thing about cars! We both thought the Crown Vic felt much more substantial and even more powerful....just not as jerky as an Avalon. And the Toyota engine REQUIRES high octane unleaded in order to get the full hp out of it. The Ford just needs regular. Hey, some of these new Mitsubishis are putting out volumnes of hp from 4 banger engines....but would they drive nice or be powerful AND comfortable? No way. The Avalon is also about 5 grand more than the Crown Vic....and not worth it in my book. Like I said, drive both, side by side like I did, THEN decide which car feels like a luxury model and the other one a toy.
Sorry bud, V-8 wins every time!
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Avalon Also not Self-Maintenance Friendly by jsylvester
Jun 13, 2005 (6:56 pm)
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One other thing - the new Avalon has a special "internal" oil filter, not a spin-on oil filter. If you like to do your own oil changes, and not be held hostage to the Toyota dealership, pass on the Avalon.
 
Still loving my 94 Grand Marquis - in fact my parents like it better than their 2002 Honda CRV. They have had my GM for about 2 months as the body shop tries to put the crackerbox CRV back together.
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Re: Handling package and such [turbo301] by basils
Jun 13, 2005 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: turbo301 (Jun 13, 2005 4:19 pm)

Thanks turbo, you've helped me a lot. That makes sense about Ford not wanting to advertise about just getting the handling package instead of a full blown sport model. The antenna thing? Well, I just read it from a Ford product memo that was posted from another site. The 2006 changes to the Crown Vic are as follows:
 
Exterior
 
Optional 16" chrome wheel on LX available
Rear window antenna in rear glass
Trip computer standard on LX and Sport
New color....Tungsten Clearcoat Metallic
Deleated color....Midnight Grey
 
Interior
 
Auto temp. control standard on LX
Light Camel trim replaces Medium Parchment
Medium Light Stone trim replaces Light Flint trim
Charcoal Black trim replaces Midnight Black trim
 
That's pretty much it for the '06 changes. Fleet and police get other changes. No real cosmetic changes until '07. Don't know about the engine. the Grand Marquis was supposed to get a facelift in '06 though. I haven't been able to confirm it or see any photos.
 
Thanks again.

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