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#2373 of 3244 Ford 500 by road46 Dec 26, 2004 (5:14 pm)
John, read many of your posts under Impala and I am a 04 owner. I hope you are enjoying your 500. I have been thinking of recommending the 500 to my mom, but I am continuing to research this car. Appreciated all of your Impala postings. I know have 8500 trouble free miles on this car. Except for a loose rear defroster connector at -10 degrees, I have not had any mechanical problems w this car
#2374 of 3244 by johnclineii Dec 26, 2004 (6:08 pm)
Yep. I've got 8300 miles on my Five Hundred so far. Got the AWD. You can read all about it over on the Five Hundred forum here at Edmunds...
#2375 of 3244 2000 Mercury GM GS by ron35 Dec 27, 2004 (8:51 am)
panda 1 - The Kelly Blue Book value for that vehicle with 111K is $5930 so I think you can do a lot better on the price. I have a 2K GM LS generally the LS has a few more bells and whistles; most in my area have leather seats but I managed to find cloth the side panel on the LS is also a little larger. Mine has power passenger seat, upgraded stereo and a digital dash. Mechanically they are the same (I do not have HPP). The precision trak refers to front end suspension components and is not traction lock or LSD.   Ron
#2376 of 3244 Crown Vic vs. Impala by dhski04 Jan 02, 2005 (7:07 pm)
I am looking to buy a used (2000-2002?) sedan that will be used primarily for highway trips. I have narrowed it down to a CV or an Impala and would go with the CV for sure if it weren't for the RWD. I live in Illinois and we can get some nasty snow storms. Also, I have a very steep driveway. I haven't had much fun driving my RWD F-150 (even with lots of sand in the back) in the winter and therefore I'm apprehensive about getting another RWD...thoughts? Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jan 03, 2005 9:27 am) crankshaft (Jan 09, 2005 8:28 am)
#2377 of 3244 2006 redesign by fsv Jan 03, 2005 (6:08 am)
Does anybody know what will be done to CV/GM in 2006?
#2378 of 3244 CV or Impala by nvbanker Jan 03, 2005 (9:27 am)
Replying to: dhski04 (Jan 02, 2005 7:07 pm) I'd try to get the CV or GM or even Town Car with traction control, and you should be ok-even on your driveway. May take some looking.
#2379 of 3244 2006 by a_l_hubcaps Jan 03, 2005 (9:37 am)
fsv-   There seem to be two main rumors about the future of the CV/GM.   Rumor #1: Restyle for MY2006, total redesign on the AUS Falcon (EA169) platform for MY2010.   Rumor #2: No major changes for MY2006, total redesign on the Five Hundred (D3) platform for MY2008.   It's not clear which of these is accurate at this point. I've heard both from credible sources.   -Andrew L
#2380 of 3244 by nvbanker Jan 03, 2005 (9:50 am)
I thought the Falcon platform was old and not suitable for NADOT standards any longer. I would put more stock in the D3 rumor.
#2381 of 3244 by johnclineii Jan 03, 2005 (5:10 pm)
My guess? The Panther will soldier on with modest changes. FoMoCo makes too much money off this body on frame, RWD, V-8 vehicle to pass up. The tooling was paid for long ago, the customers are happy, sales continue. What's not to like?   Those who want a Five Hundred (like me) will buy one. Those who don't MIGHT buy a CV/GM, but would never buy a Five Hundred. Why give up those sales?
#2382 of 3244 by a_l_hubcaps Jan 03, 2005 (5:41 pm)
johncline-   I'd like to think you're right -- I would certainly be more interested in a RWD CV/GM than a D3 vehicle -- but the Panther sales are slipping. I think the Chrysler 300 might have something to do with that. For the record, I like the 300, but I'm not sure I would want one. Incredible durability is very important to me, and the CV/GM has that while the 300 is unproven.   The D3 rumor seems to be gaining traction lately. I've seen that one around in several places including Blue Oval News. The Falcon rumor is older, but it was bolstered by a supplier document dated 10/04 that leaked recently...actually, I found it inadvertantly while running a Google search, and posted it on BON (it has since been removed) So who knows what we're going to see. Ford seems to be obsessed with optimizing platform sharing right now -- not a bad strategy, in general -- so the D3 possibility would not surprise me. It leaves me wondering, though, how a D3 CV/GM would be differentiated from the Five Hundred and Montego. I mean, which direction would they stretch it? The two platforms already have about the same trunk and interior space. It almost seems like the best option, if Ford wants to go the D3 route, would be to put a vinyl interior and black steel wheels on a Five Hundred and just sell that to the commercial/govt fleets. Not that D3 would necessarily be a good idea. I'm just sayin'.   -Andrew L

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