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samnoe by marsha7
Oct 13, 2004 (8:38 am)
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On the previous design Explorer, the signal lights were also amber, but the taillights were, naturally, red...they changed to all red on the 2002 redesign of the Explorer...it wasn't so many years ago (1960s, 1970s) that ALL of the imports had amber signal lights, British, Swedish, Italian, German, etc...that's how you could tell an import on the freeway a full mile ahead of you, was that you could see the amber signal lights over a mile away, all American cars had ONLY red, until sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, Buick/Olds actually put amber signal lights on a few of their larger, luxury models...considering the safety factor, I cannot see why it would be something that is changed from year to year...plus, it gives you extra bulbs in the back, so if your taillight bulb breaks, you still have amber signal lights, but if it is all red, a bad bulb may cause you to lose parking lights (lower filament) and brake and signal lights and 4-way flashers (upper filament)...another reason for amber, is that it is a separate bulb and circuit for signal lights and 4-way flashers...so, why do they change it???
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by johnclineii
Oct 13, 2004 (3:23 pm)
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My guess? Cost containment and lack of customer demand for an otherwise costly feature...
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2005 Grand Marquis by jsylvester
Oct 21, 2004 (7:59 pm)
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Anybody seen any new 2005's? All the dealers are still selling off the 04's, but from what I understand, the beginning of the model year is mostly fleet purchases on the production schedule.
 
I'm holding out to see what the 06 looks like, but to be honest, my 94 runs so well I cannot see me getting rid of it anytime soon.
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Rear axle problem on '03 GM by gene42
Oct 24, 2004 (11:58 am)
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After hearing an axle noise on my '03 GM with 16000 miles on it, I brought it to the dealer for warranty repair. The dealer replaced both rear axle drive shafts, bearings, seals etc. and refilled differential assembly. There was no charge to me and dealer said that there was a recall on the rear axle problem due to faulty materials used at the factory. He said that he has repaired many GM vehicles under the "recall".
 
I received no notice of such a recall being in effect and wonder why. Was the rear axle problem not consisdered dangerous? Is there such a thing as a "silent recall"?
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Re: Rear axle problem on '03 GM [gene42] by pantherapardus
Oct 28, 2004 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: gene42 (Oct 24, 2004 11:58 am)

You must be one of the lucky ones in the build dates that follow in this excerpt....2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptors and fleet vehicles with body code P70, P71 and p72 built from 10 October 2001 through 04 December 2002 may have defective rear axle shafts. In addition, 2003 Lincoln Town Cars with body codes M84 and M81 built from 14 November 2001 through 03 December 2002 may also have defective axles. Ford said "Due to significant differences in vehicle design and customer usage, the affected vehicles typically input higher loads into the vehicle chassis during fleet usage, overloading the wheel bearings and axles. This may lead to early bearing failure and ultimately, axle shaft fracture. The axle repair kit includes new axle shafts, bearings and seals. I first became aware of this in July 2004, so the recall was from around then. Hope this helps.
 
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excessive engine noise on start up by pantherapardus
Oct 28, 2004 (11:29 am)
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Anyone have experience with what sounds like a loud bearing knock on start up? I have a 2003 GM built 2/26/03 that makes more noise than any other GM I have ever heard on start up during the fraction of a second it takes oil pressure to build. Whenever the car sits for over several hours, this usually occurs. Turning the engine over a few revolutions and stopping and then repeating this and allowing it to start normally results in this issue disappearing. Anyone know of a TSB on this issue by chance? Its done it since new and it has 10k on it now. Otherwise its fine. Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: Rear axle problem on '03 GM [pantherapardus] by gene42
Oct 31, 2004 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: pantherapardus (Oct 28, 2004 11:13 am)

Thanks for your reply. My main question is why did I not receive notification of the recall. It was only when I brought my car to the dealer on my own did I learn of the recall. I assume that the potential of a broken axle is dangerous enough for Mercury to advise its customers. I have since come across the expression "silent recall" on the Blue Oval website and wonder what it means.
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I don't know if I have a problem or by marsha7
Nov 02, 2004 (8:28 am)
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just a "variation" in my 2004 Crown Vic LX Sport...when I shift directly from Park into Reverse, the tranny immediately engages and I can move backwards...when I am in Drive, and then shift to Reverse, I just sit there for almost 5 to 7 seconds, and then I can hear and feel the tranny engage into Reverse, but that seems like a long time to me...if I shift from Drive to Reverse and touch the gas pedal, it will shift into Reverse quicker, but also seems to "slam" into Reverse, rather than a gentle shift...do I have a problem, or do Crown Vic trannies just shift from Drive to Reverse quite slowly???...
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my '98 doesn't do that by iusecad
Nov 08, 2004 (10:16 am)
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I haven't driven any as new as yours though, but I would think something's up. Did you check the fluid level?
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Re: Rear axle problem on '03 GM [gene42] by hotrodlincoln1
Nov 09, 2004 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: gene42 (Oct 31, 2004 4:08 pm)

A full-on recall (with customer notification and widespread publication) happens when a defect is dicovered that presents a serious safety problem. Such recalls are often mandated by NHTSA, or are issued by the OEM when they think it is serious enough that NHTSA would require it eventually anyway.
 
When a company discovers a problem that is not a serious safety problem, they can issue a "silent recall." This is spread to the dealers via Technical Service Bulletin (TSB), but is not otherwise publicized. Ford issues a lot of these, but I have heard of GM and DCX issueing them also.
 
In the case of the axle problem, I think the reasoning is that the axle will pit badly enough to damage the bearings and cause enough noise to alert the driver long before there is a big risk of the axle breaking. I don't know how true this is, but I think that's the logic.

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