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#2304 of 3244 jsylvester by marsha7 Sep 24, 2004 (6:05 am)
But they could have made the info center an option w/o the digital dash; I hope the 2006 will have a 300 HP engine like the Marauder, or at least 275 HP w/325 ft lbs...a race car for older people and young people "in the know"...a tachometer would be nice, even tho it is an auto trans, side marker lights like the Grand Marq would be helpful (my 83 GM had them, and it illuminates the side of the road like a baseball field at a night game when your signal light is flashing)...keep the floor shifter and bucket seats, of course...moonroof option might be nice...DEFINITELY an audiophile 6-CD in dash unit with 250/300 watts, like some of Ford's other vehicles (like Mountaineer)...I also appreciate the power reclining seats with adj inflatable lumbar support in driver and passenger, was almost the sole reason to buy the car...most Fords, I believe, have manual reclining seats, few have power recliners...   Also, years prior to 2004 (don't know which ones. specifically), the Crown Vic taillights had amber signal lights on the bottom of the red lens... they made it all red in 2004...I have always believed that amber flashing signal/emergency lights are much more visible at night than all red...why did Ford make that change, when they already had the design, engineering and wiring for the amber/red lights???...it just seems to me that the vehicle was safer with amber, and they retrograde it to be all red...why???
#2305 of 3244 by jsylvester Sep 25, 2004 (5:11 am)
Moonroof is a factory option, I believe it was added to the option list part-way through the 2004 model year.   On the CD player, not sure why they still go with a trunk-mounted one. Similar story on the tail light lenses. The only thing I can come up with is since the car has a huge fleet purchase percentage, maybe the decision has something to do with that.   Let's hope the interior has a major reworking for 2004. It is currently not bad, but some of the features are out of date. Replies to this message: krk83 (Nov 15, 2004 6:57 pm)
#2306 of 3244 Amber Signal lamp by samnoe Sep 28, 2004 (9:01 pm)
is really much better than the red one. i agree. I have no idea why Ford started to change everything to red, including the Freestar.   But so are other brands doing. Example, the new GM minivans will have red lamps, and Toyota minivan got red lamps as well.   Seems that ford tries to match all rear signal lamps, to match the Explorer/Expeditions looks.
#2307 of 3244 by johnclineii Sep 29, 2004 (2:35 am)
Sometimes I think it is only change for change's sake, as in make them buy the new one cause it is different than the old one. I can't possibly imagine that anyone would think that would work very well on CV/GM owners. Most are far too practical (and sensible) for that.
#2308 of 3244 Re: sidvid2 - re: squeaks - [harmar2] by sidvid2 Sep 29, 2004 (3:53 pm)
Replying to: harmar2 (Sep 18, 2004 9:51 pm) Thanks harmar2,   That was a lot of useful information! I have an appointment with Ford tomorrow to take it in along with my list. Hopefully they will be able to correct these things.   I will be sure to take in your note and suggestions with me as an FYI of some things to look for.   It is nice to have this source of experience the forum provides in dubugging issues that many owners have been through.   Thanks Again
#2309 of 3244 samnoe by marsha7 Oct 13, 2004 (8:38 am)
On the previous design Explorer, the signal lights were also amber, but the taillights were, naturally, red...they changed to all red on the 2002 redesign of the Explorer...it wasn't so many years ago (1960s, 1970s) that ALL of the imports had amber signal lights, British, Swedish, Italian, German, etc...that's how you could tell an import on the freeway a full mile ahead of you, was that you could see the amber signal lights over a mile away, all American cars had ONLY red, until sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, Buick/Olds actually put amber signal lights on a few of their larger, luxury models...considering the safety factor, I cannot see why it would be something that is changed from year to year...plus, it gives you extra bulbs in the back, so if your taillight bulb breaks, you still have amber signal lights, but if it is all red, a bad bulb may cause you to lose parking lights (lower filament) and brake and signal lights and 4-way flashers (upper filament)...another reason for amber, is that it is a separate bulb and circuit for signal lights and 4-way flashers...so, why do they change it???
#2310 of 3244 by johnclineii Oct 13, 2004 (3:23 pm)
My guess? Cost containment and lack of customer demand for an otherwise costly feature...
#2311 of 3244 2005 Grand Marquis by jsylvester Oct 21, 2004 (7:59 pm)
Anybody seen any new 2005's? All the dealers are still selling off the 04's, but from what I understand, the beginning of the model year is mostly fleet purchases on the production schedule.   I'm holding out to see what the 06 looks like, but to be honest, my 94 runs so well I cannot see me getting rid of it anytime soon. Replies to this message: gene42 (Nov 16, 2004 4:40 pm)
#2312 of 3244 Rear axle problem on '03 GM by gene42 Oct 24, 2004 (11:58 am)
After hearing an axle noise on my '03 GM with 16000 miles on it, I brought it to the dealer for warranty repair. The dealer replaced both rear axle drive shafts, bearings, seals etc. and refilled differential assembly. There was no charge to me and dealer said that there was a recall on the rear axle problem due to faulty materials used at the factory. He said that he has repaired many GM vehicles under the "recall".   I received no notice of such a recall being in effect and wonder why. Was the rear axle problem not consisdered dangerous? Is there such a thing as a "silent recall"? Replies to this message: pantherapardus (Oct 28, 2004 11:13 am) gene42 (Oct 31, 2004 4:08 pm) hotrodlincoln1 (Nov 09, 2004 5:45 pm)
#2313 of 3244 Re: Rear axle problem on '03 GM [gene42] by pantherapardus Oct 28, 2004 (11:13 am)
Replying to: gene42 (Oct 24, 2004 11:58 am) You must be one of the lucky ones in the build dates that follow in this excerpt....2003 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptors and fleet vehicles with body code P70, P71 and p72 built from 10 October 2001 through 04 December 2002 may have defective rear axle shafts. In addition, 2003 Lincoln Town Cars with body codes M84 and M81 built from 14 November 2001 through 03 December 2002 may also have defective axles. Ford said "Due to significant differences in vehicle design and customer usage, the affected vehicles typically input higher loads into the vehicle chassis during fleet usage, overloading the wheel bearings and axles. This may lead to early bearing failure and ultimately, axle shaft fracture. The axle repair kit includes new axle shafts, bearings and seals. I first became aware of this in July 2004, so the recall was from around then. Hope this helps.   wbright Replies to this message: gene42 (Oct 31, 2004 4:08 pm) hotrodlincoln1 (Nov 09, 2004 5:45 pm)

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