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What is this discussion about? Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Exterior, Sedan


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by johnclineii
Mar 15, 2004 (4:42 pm)
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2006 redesign of WHAT? The CV/GM? Don't hold your breath...
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by danielj6
Mar 15, 2004 (5:11 pm)
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wnichols: Remind your wife that it's very tricky to buy a new model when it just comes out. Chrysler doesn't have a good reputation for reliability. Although they're masters at car design, dependability is lacking in just about every model with very few exceptions
(Re: PT Cruiser).
 
CV/GM are tried and true war dogs for lack of a better description. They aren't perfect but Police departments around the country have been using them and New York City cab drivers use them as well, the Crown Vic that is.
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Re 2215 by wnichols
Mar 16, 2004 (1:19 pm)
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I have read on this board to expect a freshening or redesign of the CV/GM in 2006. Are you saying this info was wrong?
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danielj6 by wnichols
Mar 16, 2004 (1:46 pm)
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I don't plan to buy until 2006 or 2007 - by this point, they should have most of the kinks worked out on this new design from Chrysler (300C). They are using quite a number of MB parts in this car, so hopefully it will last.
 
If Ford does not make improvements to the CV/GM by that time, I will not be allowed to buy another one.
 
There have been several mechanical problems with our '99 that I had to pay for out of warranty that should not have occurred at such low miles: tie rod ends and sleeves at 30K, heater box 33K and fuel pump 34K (rec'd warranty adjustment to price of heater box repair only). Car only has 46K now; we're concerned about what else will give out in the next 2-3 years.
 
I won't buy the Chrysler if it is shown to have serious mechanical problems, but I probably won't be getting the GM either.
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by johnclineii
Mar 16, 2004 (4:25 pm)
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EVERYthing I read says AT MOST there will be a SLIGHT refreshening, which means decor changes, not a new platform or redesign. Nearly all the current CV/GM dates to 1992, when it had its last major redesign.
 
See: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-01-28-carlives_x.htm
 
Pay especial attention to the last three paragraphs....
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johnclineii by wnichols
Mar 16, 2004 (5:59 pm)
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Thanks for the reply. Maybe Ford's viewpoint will change if the RWD Chrysler 300 is a hit. It will be direct competition. In fact, the 300C will outclass the Merc. with features, including the 340 hp motor. Even the Marauder doesn't match up.
 
But maybe Ford will decide not to compete with the "new kid on the block".
 
As I said in my last post, this may be my last GM. I bought this one new when I was 32 - significantly under the target demographic age. My wife liked it very well at first, but has become dissatisfied by the lack of power and repair costs.
 
So, I guess we wait and see what Mercury/Ford will bring to the table in 2006 & 2007.
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by hotrodlincoln1
Mar 16, 2004 (7:27 pm)
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If the 300C is a hit, Ford will probably have to offer some version of the 5.4 or a supercharged 4.6 in order to compete. Modulated displacement will probably be necesary(CAFE), but with luck they will get it right. As I see it, the enthusiast consumer can't lose.
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Buy used GMs or CVs with low mileage by harmar2
Mar 18, 2004 (12:08 pm)
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and drive till they start deteriorating more than you can tolerate. Let someone else eat the depreciation. My touch-up pint of paint lasts a long time, ragdollgirl. (My sister also gets rid of her cars as soon as they are paid off, even though she puts <20,000 miles total on them. Foolish!)
 
Having used them all, but found no trustworthy Merc dealerships in my area, I had a Ford dealership do a 50K servicing on my 2000 GM. After ~1,000 miles, things seem to be going well. I am assuming that CV and GM parts are identical with just different part numbers. Does anyone have the facts in that regard? Has anyone else used CV parts, rather than GM, and found them to be of poorer quality? Thanks for any help.
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wnichols by danielj6
Mar 18, 2004 (4:03 pm)
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Sorry you had some problems with you Merc. GM. It's such a nice car.
 
I was looking at the IIHS web site and to my dismay found that large cars like CV/GM and even the Le Sabre have poor (Fords) and marginal on the GM bumpers. Detroit couldn't make a better bumper design for such large cars??
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My Thanks by bobparks1
Mar 26, 2004 (10:46 am)
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to all who posted here about their Mercury Grand Marquis and Ford Crown Victoria experiences. I recently purchased a used 2003 Grand Marquis LS Premium to replace our 2002 Lincoln Continental when it goes off lease in two weeks. The majority of owners are happy with their choice and that helped a lot in making my choice. I shall continue reading this board. Bob Parks

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