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#2207 of 3244 Right On - harmar2! by ragdollgirl Mar 08, 2004 (9:08 am)
There really IS more to life than a new car in the garage. You're right. Try telling that to my daughter/son-in-law. They hardly have 2 nickels to rub together as they're trying to get their aviation careers squared away, but they spend three quarters of their spare time looking at BMWs and Audis on the internet. I say "Get a life!" I know they'll come home with one very soon, albeit probably a used one, but unless you are talking about cars to them, they hardly listen. I feel my car will let me know when it's time to give it up. But for now, I just bought some touch-up paint and went out yesterday and painted every stone chip I could find. Voila! New car!
#2208 of 3244 BMW worries by dmers Mar 09, 2004 (7:05 am)
It's like I read in the 740 series BMW Edmonds site: "If you can't afford the maintanence of a BMW, you really should not be looking at this type of car."   The G Marquis is really one of the lowest total cost of ownership cars out there, despite what the car magazines say; though I admit it is not the most attractive car. Ford wants you to buy a Jag, Volvo or Lincoln LS if you want looks.   dmers
#2210 of 3244 Addendum: by dmers Mar 09, 2004 (7:08 am)
Most people will squeeze into a small 330 series BMW to say they are driving a German car. I feel interior size is a luxury in today's car market.   dmers
#2211 of 3244 03 GM Owner in Chicago by cfocfo Mar 12, 2004 (11:20 am)
Someone asked awhile ago about the New GM (RWD)in the Chicago Winters.   I too live in Chicago, drive an '03 GM, and can say that there is maybe 2 or 3 times a winter you will wish you had front wheel drive. (362 days you won't)   In my opinion, 2 or 3 times a year does not warrant FWD, AWD. They dump so much salt around here, that I don't think any snowfall under 4" has a chance of sticking to the road anyway. The bigger problem is rinsing the white salt film off you car every 3rd day.   I think the hype for these Jumbo AWD SUVs is ...... well .... a Soccer Mom and her money shall part.   Regarding the MPG - I have been getting 17/24 Regarding the Ride - I would like it to be "softer" as others have mentioned.   I was looking for Value, roominess, and safety, so the GM works well for me.
#2212 of 3244 BMW worries by danielj6 Mar 13, 2004 (6:07 am)
Those still able to appreciate car car value, in terms of room, safety, power, durability, comfort, reasonable maintenance costs and lower insurance premiums will choose Ford's CV/GM. Those looking for trendy, fashionable cars will lease or buy European.   It's not that German cars don't have some of the attributes outlined above, but American large sedans offer a lot more bang for the buck in the short and long term.   The issue that those driving European cars have larger incomes than those buying American models is not true in every case. I know people that work two jobs just to afford payments on their leased MB's, Audis and BMW 's.
#2213 of 3244 Don't skimp on Tires by dmers Mar 15, 2004 (10:25 am)
I agree with the total cost of ownership/mile value argument. The Grand Marquis is a very cost effective way to go. I generally buy a well equipped one at 1-2 years old and keep for another 6-8 years (we put about 22+K on a year) . . . . granted my maintanence is higher at first with brakes, hoses/belts, tires, etc, but 30 years of this tends to add up to a substantial savings over time for investing. You can afford to buy new cars later on.   Do not skimp on tires: I tried some top of the line MasterCraft Tires and saved $250+ but lost my smooth ride. I traded back for the Michelins and got the smooth ride back. Those other tires may wear better, but you will feel all bumps. There is a reason Ford goes with Michelin tires from the get go. I got abaout 75K on the last set w/ rotation. 16" Tires cost more, but go a little farther.   dmers
#2214 of 3244 Competition from Chrysler by wnichols Mar 15, 2004 (4:39 pm)
The new Chrysler 300 (rwd/awd) car coming out in the next month may cut into CV/GM sales. We have a '99GM w/HPP that we purchased new, but my wife thinks it's a dog. She really fell for the 300C at the auto show; she wants the Hemi (340HP/390ft-lbs.torque).   Although I still like the GM, I don't think I'll be buying another one if this new Chrysler is successful. The *boss* wouldn't let me.   I'm afraid that Ford won't try to update these cars to compete with this newcomer. They have been decontenting the cars instead of adding new features. I also don't think that the new Ford 500 will be in the running for us. Any hope for improvements with the 2006 redesign?
#2215 of 3244 by johnclineii Mar 15, 2004 (4:42 pm)
2006 redesign of WHAT? The CV/GM? Don't hold your breath...
#2216 of 3244 by danielj6 Mar 15, 2004 (5:11 pm)
wnichols: Remind your wife that it's very tricky to buy a new model when it just comes out. Chrysler doesn't have a good reputation for reliability. Although they're masters at car design, dependability is lacking in just about every model with very few exceptions (Re: PT Cruiser).   CV/GM are tried and true war dogs for lack of a better description. They aren't perfect but Police departments around the country have been using them and New York City cab drivers use them as well, the Crown Vic that is.

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