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#2198 of 3244 Cornering Lamps by kyjeepster Feb 21, 2004 (5:16 pm)
I have driven several 2003 and 2004 model GM's and CV's before I purchased my 1st Generation 2003 Grand Marquis with the stiff suspension, but as a rule of thumb, none of the 2003 or 2004 CV's had cornering lamps, but all of the 2003 and 2004 GM's had cornering lamps.   The only thing that I noticed of significant change between the numerous new and used GM's that I saw produced between April 2002 and current was the changes in the suspension and the deletion of locking electric gas filler door. I also noticed that the steering ratio changed between the very early 2003 models and the latest 2004 models. The dealers told me that was not true, but the 2004's took more motion to make the car turn than the early build 2003 model that I purchased. The main factor that pushed me to purchasing the used GM LS Premium over the brand new GM was the rear sway bar that I got in combination with rear springs which is not available on the 2004's unless you get airbag suspension or a P71. Sure the car does have a more of an understeer condition by comparison to the CV LX's and GM LS/LS Ultimate that I test drove, but it was more controllable when excessive power was being put to the ground. But at age 30, I am not the typical Grand Marquis/Crown Vic owner. Now I need an H-pipe and a second muffler/tailpipe and my GM will be perfect.
#2199 of 3244 Cornering Lamps by samnoe Feb 21, 2004 (6:38 pm)
Seems that these lamps are reserved for the Grand Marquis only.   Thank you for your answer.
#2200 of 3244 To vicville with the air bag light problem by vicville Feb 28, 2004 (7:43 am)
Hi there Ragdallgirl, well it was not a bargin, it was to the tune of like 900.$ very expensive. and that was not even ford, that was a friend that did the work. the airbag module was like 450 i think and then they had to tear the whole dash apart, and found the short behind the glove box. and he said it was caused buthe manufacture not securing some wires when the car was new. so over the 10 years they just rubbed themself bare. and also some other sensor was replaced. but i would still recomend getting it fixed if you like your car, for the safety sake of it. good luck vic
#2201 of 3244 Torque spec qustion by jrc346 Feb 28, 2004 (5:25 pm)
Well I finnaly got my hands dirty this weekend on my good friends 94 CV. So far I have taken the exhaust appart for 2 new mufflers, put in a new battery, and cleaned out the EGR valve passages. The battery terminals were cracked (the negative side being almost cracked all the way) and I believe this is what might be causing the surging problem. There was not very good contact at all and on top of that the terminals were covered with grime and grease. The EGR passages, as promised by other good people here, were about 50% blocked, give or take 10%. I am about to put everything in the engine bay back together, but I just realized something. I don't think I have the correct torque numbers for reattach the air intake elbow to the intake manifold. The book/manual I have is for a Thunberbird with the same engine, though it says that I need to torque it to 90ft lbs. That sounds really tight for an aluminum intake. Is this right? If not is there anyone out there that knows the correct torque specs for a 94 CV for the ait intake elbow to intake manifold?
#2202 of 3244 by jrc346 Feb 29, 2004 (9:05 pm)
Found the torque spec. It was in inch pounds not ft. pounds.
#2203 of 3244 Can't Bear to Part With my 94 GM by ragdollgirl Mar 02, 2004 (12:13 pm)
My husband, daughter, and son-in-law are all on my back about getting a new car. My 94 GM has over 184k miles on it, but it runs great and looks great. I, too, would like a new car, but you know, I just can't bring myself to part with this one. I have a funny feeling that I could get another car, same brand or not, and have loads of problems with it. I won't get anything for this baby, and hate to just give it away. It would break my heart. But I'm a very sentimental person, too much so for my own good, and I get too attached to my cars. My son-in-law even went so far as to say that he would take it for me and put it out of its misery! Can you believe that insult! It blows a little oil smoke and is getting those dreaded yellow places on the bumper where the paint is wearing off, and has some pretty big stone chips here and there, but what the heck? It's paid for and gets me where I want to go. The kids only go for German cars and won't hear of anything else. That's fine, but I've had less trouble with this GM than they've had with ANY of their cars! Just had to get this off my chest. Thanks for listening. Replies to this message: alston28 (Apr 18, 2004 4:42 pm)
#2204 of 3244 So keep it. by hotrodlincoln1 Mar 03, 2004 (7:35 am)
It does sound like you could use some new valve seals. They are a known weak point on the early 4.6's.
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#2206 of 3244 ragdollgirl -- Tell them: by harmar2 Mar 06, 2004 (6:47 pm)
"It's mine, it's paid for, it's not nickel-and-diming me to death, it runs fine for my needs, and I love it! So be quiet, already!" My wife almost cried when we got rid of a '71 Cutlass, too. She felt like we were leaving a child behind at the dealer's lot.   Too many people, in my view, spend too much of their time thinking they know what is best for others. Have you heard the saying, "If mama ain't happy, ain't no one happy!"? Well, the near obverse is just as true: "If mama's happy, that oughta be good enough for everyone else!" There is more to life than a new car in the garage.   (Perhaps that is heresy on a car-talk board? Gulp!)
#2207 of 3244 Right On - harmar2! by ragdollgirl Mar 08, 2004 (9:08 am)
There really IS more to life than a new car in the garage. You're right. Try telling that to my daughter/son-in-law. They hardly have 2 nickels to rub together as they're trying to get their aviation careers squared away, but they spend three quarters of their spare time looking at BMWs and Audis on the internet. I say "Get a life!" I know they'll come home with one very soon, albeit probably a used one, but unless you are talking about cars to them, they hardly listen. I feel my car will let me know when it's time to give it up. But for now, I just bought some touch-up paint and went out yesterday and painted every stone chip I could find. Voila! New car!

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