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#1968 of 3244 Trade or keep 1996 GM by rogerdp Jul 27, 2003 (2:08 pm)
I would like to get some opinions on whether or not to keep my current car. It is a 96 Grand Marquis GS with 41,500 one owner miles, looks and drives like new. I have maintained the car to a much more stringent schedule than recommended (2500 mile oil changes), etc. I hear so much about the composite manifolds cracking, that it worries me. Does anyone know the average mileage when the manifold is likely to become a problem? Also, (I'll bet Kinley knows this), in my factory manual it states that the front disc brake pads should be replaced when they reach 1/8" thick. What is the thickness of a new pad? The reason I ask is that I checked mine last week and they are 3/16" now. But if they were only 1/4" when new, I have several more miles left. If thicker, I need to be getting some pads now. I know this is long, but I appreciate the good opinions I read on this board. Thanks!!
#1969 of 3244 Trade or Keep by dbc123 Jul 27, 2003 (6:02 pm)
Ford does not list a thickness for new brake pads but I would estimate 3/8 inch. They are easily and inexpensively changed. (Rear minimun thickness is listed as .22 inch) I've a 94 and 03 GM and can tell you that the real big improvment is the steering. The ride, however, is jiggly and busy due to much more shock damping. Nowhere near as smooth as the previous cars. This is probably less noticable in the TC as it has a longer wheelbase and uses the slightly softer rear air springs standard. Resin manifolds sometimes fail as early as 30K miles and as late as 140K - or never! If the uncertainty of it bothers you, it can be replaced for about $300 parts and 3-4 hours labor.
#1970 of 3244 rogerdp: You've a lot of miles left in your pads, but by kinley Jul 27, 2003 (7:41 pm)
in my opinion, Ford is obligated to replace all of the probable failure intake manifolds so as to restore driver confidence in their product. It's like driving with a time bomb under the hood. When's it gonna blow? A buyer should not have to pay $300 plus to eliminate a known hazard before it explodes. I've a friend who traded a car like yours for a new Lincoln LS. Why he decided to reward Ford with his business after selling him a faulty intake manifold puzzles me.
#1971 of 3244 Replace the Manifold? by dbc123 Jul 28, 2003 (8:09 am)
Ford has only replaced resin manifolds in PI (police interceptor) cars; they contend that failure is more prone in these cars due to severe use. They will only replace these AFTER failure - not as a precaution. The manifolds were used from 96-01 and there are probably more than a million cars on the road with them. Although it would be very costly; I agree with Kinley that Ford should replace them all before failure. That's not likely to happen as Ford contends the failure rate is relatively low. If I owned a car with one that had lots of life left as rodgerdp does, I'd spend the $600-700 to replace the manifold ( be SURE to specify the aluminum crossover version). This is still much cheaper than buying a new car that may not satisfy as much as the older car!
#1972 of 3244 "Dear Mr. Ford, by kinley Jul 28, 2003 (2:01 pm)
As my 96-01 Formercoln 4.6 engine has the hazardous intake manifold which you replace after it breaks, I propose you replace it now with the aluminum crossover version. I'm willing to pay 50% of the cost just to restore confidence in my car you manufactured. You are to have my local dealer contact me within five working days to accomplish this task. Yours truly, Mr. Motorist.
#1973 of 3244 Thanks kinley and dbc123 by rogerdp Jul 28, 2003 (2:41 pm)
I have read your posts and appreciate the input. I'll let the brakes go a little while and check again. As far as the manifold goes ????? I agree with kinley that it seems a shame to reward Ford by purchasing another GM, but I would probably end up at the Mercury store again. There is nothing else out there that compares (V8 and RWD) unless you have $45,000.00 or more to spend and then you would have to go foreign. Replacing the manifold as dbc123 says is an option. I'll have to think it over. Thanks again!!
#1974 of 3244 re:intakes by vidtech Jul 30, 2003 (3:15 pm)
it is very frustrating that ford will replace the intakes on t birds and crown vic's but not the marquis.it is a very poor design.the alternator is partially fastened to the intake where the failures occur.
#1975 of 3244 My test drive by canddmeyer Aug 02, 2003 (10:45 pm)
Seems most everyone here is happy with their car. I test drove a Crown Vic LX Sport Saturday, but I found the rear end tail happy. That kind of burst my bubble as I thought the car would have had better road manners for the top end model. I also drove an Impala LS and must admit the Impala handled better. I've long been a fan of full size cars & have been looking forward to owning one again & keeping my SUV parked awhile. The Vic was fully optioned & very comfortable, but just couldn't keep the rear planted. Anyway, since these cars depreciate fast but seem to last forever, I'll keep my eyes open for a 2-3 year old car someone might get bored with & let go cheap since this board continually praises the longevity of these cars.
#1976 of 3244 No reverse on 94' CV by pkwdena Aug 04, 2003 (3:16 pm)
I'm new to this board. I have a 94 CV and a 97 GM. The GM replaced the CV as my everyday car nearly two years ago. The CV has 230,000 miles on it and has been very reliable with few mechanical problems. Recently, it stopped going in reverse. The transmission feels as though it slips in reverse and the car only moves in reverse when assisted by a slight incline and revving the engine. I had the lockup torque converter problem back at 40k, which I addressed by cutting the wire that powers the electric lock up. I also change the fluid at 50k intervals. Has anyone experienced the reverse problem?
#1977 of 3244 Hard Right turn by mercuryguy Aug 07, 2003 (8:00 am)
Someone please help. I have a problem that pops up every once in a while.....Driving in tight areas (parking lots, etc) the car has a hard time turning right (and only right).....as if the power steering is out...but it isn't....the pump works fine. 1992 Mercury Grand Marquis LS

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