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Ford Crown Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis

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What is this discussion about? Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Exterior, Sedan


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pat Host: It was the day after Christmas 01. by kinley
Jul 19, 2003 (11:29 am)
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ahh! Well happy, happy. :-) by pat HOST
Jul 19, 2003 (2:49 pm)
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by kirstie_h HOST
Jul 22, 2003 (1:34 pm)
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A reporter with a major midwestern daily newspaper is looking to interview a consumer who currently owns a Ford Crown Victoria, or got rid of one in the past month. If you fit the bill, please respond with your daytime contact information to jfallonedmunds.com by July 28.
Thanks!
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Trade or keep 1996 GM by rogerdp
Jul 27, 2003 (2:08 pm)
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I would like to get some opinions on whether or not to keep my current car. It is a 96 Grand Marquis GS with 41,500 one owner miles, looks and drives like new. I have maintained the car to a much more stringent schedule than recommended (2500 mile oil changes), etc. I hear so much about the composite manifolds cracking, that it worries me. Does anyone know the average mileage when the manifold is likely to become a problem? Also, (I'll bet Kinley knows this), in my factory manual it states that the front disc brake pads should be replaced when they reach 1/8" thick. What is the thickness of a new pad? The reason I ask is that I checked mine last week and they are 3/16" now. But if they were only 1/4" when new, I have several more miles left. If thicker, I need to be getting some pads now. I know this is long, but I appreciate the good opinions I read on this board. Thanks!!
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Trade or Keep by dbc123
Jul 27, 2003 (6:02 pm)
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Ford does not list a thickness for new brake pads but I would estimate 3/8 inch. They are easily and inexpensively changed. (Rear minimun thickness is listed as .22 inch)
I've a 94 and 03 GM and can tell you that the real big improvment is the steering. The ride, however, is jiggly and busy due to much more shock damping. Nowhere near as smooth as the previous cars. This is probably less noticable in the TC as it has a longer wheelbase and uses the slightly softer rear air springs standard.
Resin manifolds sometimes fail as early as 30K miles and as late as 140K - or never! If the uncertainty of it bothers you, it can be replaced for about $300 parts and 3-4 hours labor.
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rogerdp: You've a lot of miles left in your pads, but by kinley
Jul 27, 2003 (7:41 pm)
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in my opinion, Ford is obligated to replace all of the probable failure intake manifolds so as to restore driver confidence in their product. It's like driving with a time bomb under the hood. When's it gonna blow? A buyer should not have to pay $300 plus to eliminate a known hazard before it explodes. I've a friend who traded a car like yours for a new Lincoln LS. Why he decided to reward Ford with his business after selling him a faulty intake manifold puzzles me.
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Replace the Manifold? by dbc123
Jul 28, 2003 (8:09 am)
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Ford has only replaced resin manifolds in PI (police interceptor) cars; they contend that failure is more prone in these cars due to severe use. They will only replace these AFTER failure - not as a precaution. The manifolds were used from 96-01 and there are probably more than a million cars on the road with them. Although it would be very costly; I agree with Kinley that Ford should replace them all before failure. That's not likely to happen as Ford contends the failure rate is relatively low. If I owned a car with one that had lots of life left as rodgerdp does, I'd spend the $600-700 to replace the manifold ( be SURE to specify the aluminum crossover version). This is still much cheaper than buying a new car that may not satisfy as much as the older car!
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"Dear Mr. Ford, by kinley
Jul 28, 2003 (2:01 pm)
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As my 96-01 Formercoln 4.6 engine has the hazardous intake manifold which you replace after it breaks, I propose you replace it now with the aluminum crossover version. I'm willing to pay 50% of the cost just to restore confidence in my car you manufactured. You are to have my local dealer contact me within five working days to accomplish this task. Yours truly, Mr. Motorist.
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Thanks kinley and dbc123 by rogerdp
Jul 28, 2003 (2:41 pm)
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I have read your posts and appreciate the input. I'll let the brakes go a little while and check again. As far as the manifold goes ????? I agree with kinley that it seems a shame to reward Ford by purchasing another GM, but I would probably end up at the Mercury store again. There is nothing else out there that compares (V8 and RWD) unless you have $45,000.00 or more to spend and then you would have to go foreign. Replacing the manifold as dbc123 says is an option. I'll have to think it over. Thanks again!!
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re:intakes by vidtech
Jul 30, 2003 (3:15 pm)
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it is very frustrating that ford will replace the intakes on t birds and crown vic's but not the marquis.it is a very poor design.the alternator is partially fastened to the intake where the failures occur.

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