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#1920 of 3244 Kinley: I agree: Refinment is Important by dbc123 Jun 16, 2003 (6:06 am)
These relatively minor quibbles aside, I'm continually amazed at the value these cars represent. I paid less than $2K more for my new 03 GM than for the new one in 94 - compariably equipped. They represent an incredible value, expecially with the huge cashback offers now existing. Only about 10% price increase in 9 years and numerous upgrades during that time to keep the cars current.
#1921 of 3244 cracked intake by vidtech Jun 18, 2003 (3:35 pm)
my 97 grand marquis with 4.6 just had the intake manifold crack.i understand this is a common problem.has ford extended the warranties on these failures?also,will the aluminum intakes from the 1994 and 1995 engines work on the newer 4.6's which use the plastic version?
#1922 of 3244 Ford has been known to warranty the plastic intake manifold by kinley Jun 19, 2003 (10:54 am)
but of late, I'm not sure. There were a couple of TSB's issued so check with your L/M dealer.
#1923 of 3244 Intake Manifold Failure by dbc123 Jun 19, 2003 (11:35 am)
Ford's official position is to only warrent the manifolds on police interceptor (PI) cars. Occasionally, when really pressed, they will offer partial reimbursment for replacment. The newest replacments are two piece with the troublesome water crossover made of aluminum and the remainder of the manifold in resin (plastic). These seemed to cure the problem. They were also installed on all 02 forward 4.6's. Earlier all aluminum manifolds will bolt to the engine but there are several minor differences that make this a difficult option. Best is the new 2 piece manifold - it retails for about $250 plus at least 2-3 hours labor for installation.
#1924 of 3244 Pretty Happy with my 94 GM by ragdollgirl Jun 20, 2003 (6:50 am)
I have a 94 GM that I bought new and it now has over 176,000 miles on it. It had lots of problems early on that got resolved, and for the most part it has been a great car. However, the gas tank sensor wires went on the fritz a long time ago and doesn't read the right way after a fill-up until the gas has gone down some. I just live with it. Also, years ago the headlight auto-off sensor died and I never replaced it. My immediate concern is that the air bag system developed a short in it a few weeks ago and I have not yet fixed it because nobody can tell me how much it will cost as they don't know how long it will take to find the short. I'm not real happy driving with no air bags, and the blinking light on the dash is driving me to distraction. I have been toying with the notion of buying a new VW Passat, but hesitate to let my GM go. It's so great in so many ways, it's a shame to practically give it away. Any opinions on whether the air bags are worth the attempt to fix them?
#1925 of 3244 Any opinions on whether the air bags are worth the attempt to fix them? by kinley Jun 20, 2003 (9:36 am)
Just talk to anybody over 60 who was not raised with them, didn't wear a helmet while biking and played stickball in the street. As a member of "Rifle Club" it was not shocking to see a member carrying his "22" down the hall to the range under the auditorium. As other suppliers provide parts for the assembly of our cars, they are expected to foul up. The sensor for the WS washer malfuntioned 5 years and 50,000 miles ago and just recently the automatic pull down feature on the trunk stopped. Over riding the switch caused the pull down catch to be positioned in the right spot enabling the deck lid to be shut manually. Neither is safety related though. IMO had all the $$$ spent on improving driver crash survivability been spent on driver improvement courses, we might be further ahead and not have to buy such expensive cars. "Make safer drivers, not safer crashes."
#1927 of 3244 Repair 94 GM or replace it? by dbc123 Jun 20, 2003 (5:33 pm)
I also have a 94 GM with 144K miles. I elected to keep it when I bought a new 03 GM. My 94 has given excellent service requiring less than $300 in repairs (parts only) other than routine replacment items since new. It still runs, drives and looks great. I can empathize with the above poster who is reluctant to let their 94 go. The value of a 9 year old GM with over 100K miles is next to nothing.  I would at least spend a few bucks to have the air bag electrical problem diagnosed - it may not be that expensive to fix if it is a simple short. If it is the deployment module that will be another matter Be aware that the VW Passat's reliablity record is only average and that repairs and parts are much more expensive than for a Ford product.
#1928 of 3244 handling package availability by p100 Jun 20, 2003 (9:36 pm)
Is the handling package (dueal exahust, alloy wheels, wider tires, and pneumatic rear shocks)still available on base 03 GM and Crown Victoria? It was on the 02 model I think. this one option is well worth $ 600.
#1929 of 3244 HPP Availability by dbc123 Jun 21, 2003 (9:26 am)
The Handling and Performance Package (HPP) is avilable on the GM LS and CV LX only. It does not include wider tires. The rear suspension is air springs not "pneumatic shocks". It also includes a lower rear axle ratio that improves acceleration slightly while reducing fuel economy. Larger sway bars and stiffer springs result in a very firm ride. Consumer Reports found the ride to be "stiff and jiggly" with this package. Try before you buy. The package is not for everyone but a good value if the sacrifices are worth the slight improvments in handling and performance.

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