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#1916 of 3244 2003 Owner's Comments by dbc123 Jun 14, 2003 (8:18 am)
Any other owners of 2003 CV/GM care to share their observations on their cars? These cars have just undergone the most radical updating since 92 and I'd like to hear what others are thinking about the changes. I've a new 03 and a 94 GM which I alternate driving. They are very different driving cars although the appearance is not changed that much.
#1917 of 3244 dbc123: Does your 03 have the 239 hp Lincoln engine? by kinley Jun 14, 2003 (8:26 am)
If so, how would you describe the performance, acceleration, difference between the two. Choosing between the CV & GM - what were the values and reasons to choose the GM over the CV?
#1918 of 3244 4.6 Engine HP Ratings by dbc123 Jun 14, 2003 (6:04 pm)
For 03 all 4.6 single exhaust are 224 HP while dual exhaust are rated at 239 HP. Since duals are (were) only available on the discontinued LSE model you now have no choice of HP ratings. The Handling and Performance Package (HPP) is still available on the CV and this gives dual exhausts along with stiffer springs and sway bars. You may recall 92-01 4.6 engines were rated at 190-200 HP or 210-215 with duals.   For 02 Ford changed the cylinder heads to Performance Improved (PI) heads from the Mustang engine and gained about 10% in HP. These PI head engines do not run as smoothly or quietly as the earlier engines but do make noticably more power - it's a tradeoff. I've not completely decided if the loss of the silky feel of the earlier engines was worth the added power which is noticable only when the engine is really wound up to higher RPM.   Which would you choose?
#1919 of 3244 dbc123: Smooth and quiet has more Class. by kinley Jun 15, 2003 (11:15 pm)
#1920 of 3244 Kinley: I agree: Refinment is Important by dbc123 Jun 16, 2003 (6:06 am)
These relatively minor quibbles aside, I'm continually amazed at the value these cars represent. I paid less than $2K more for my new 03 GM than for the new one in 94 - compariably equipped. They represent an incredible value, expecially with the huge cashback offers now existing. Only about 10% price increase in 9 years and numerous upgrades during that time to keep the cars current.
#1921 of 3244 cracked intake by vidtech Jun 18, 2003 (3:35 pm)
my 97 grand marquis with 4.6 just had the intake manifold crack.i understand this is a common problem.has ford extended the warranties on these failures?also,will the aluminum intakes from the 1994 and 1995 engines work on the newer 4.6's which use the plastic version?
#1922 of 3244 Ford has been known to warranty the plastic intake manifold by kinley Jun 19, 2003 (10:54 am)
but of late, I'm not sure. There were a couple of TSB's issued so check with your L/M dealer.
#1923 of 3244 Intake Manifold Failure by dbc123 Jun 19, 2003 (11:35 am)
Ford's official position is to only warrent the manifolds on police interceptor (PI) cars. Occasionally, when really pressed, they will offer partial reimbursment for replacment. The newest replacments are two piece with the troublesome water crossover made of aluminum and the remainder of the manifold in resin (plastic). These seemed to cure the problem. They were also installed on all 02 forward 4.6's. Earlier all aluminum manifolds will bolt to the engine but there are several minor differences that make this a difficult option. Best is the new 2 piece manifold - it retails for about $250 plus at least 2-3 hours labor for installation.
#1924 of 3244 Pretty Happy with my 94 GM by ragdollgirl Jun 20, 2003 (6:50 am)
I have a 94 GM that I bought new and it now has over 176,000 miles on it. It had lots of problems early on that got resolved, and for the most part it has been a great car. However, the gas tank sensor wires went on the fritz a long time ago and doesn't read the right way after a fill-up until the gas has gone down some. I just live with it. Also, years ago the headlight auto-off sensor died and I never replaced it. My immediate concern is that the air bag system developed a short in it a few weeks ago and I have not yet fixed it because nobody can tell me how much it will cost as they don't know how long it will take to find the short. I'm not real happy driving with no air bags, and the blinking light on the dash is driving me to distraction. I have been toying with the notion of buying a new VW Passat, but hesitate to let my GM go. It's so great in so many ways, it's a shame to practically give it away. Any opinions on whether the air bags are worth the attempt to fix them?

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