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#1809 of 3244 Is the GM the SAFEST car on the road ? by cfocfo Feb 27, 2003 (10:51 am)
It looked like it was the highest ranked (5 stars) full size vehicle on the market, according to the STAR ranking system at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/.   The side impact was only 4 STARS, but if eqquiped with side airbags, I don't see how there is a safer VEHICLE on the road right now ?   And please, no need to include the 60 MPH crash into the back-end on the hwy issue. (If I was pulling over 3-5 drivers a day on the hwy, that would concern me, but most people don't)
#1810 of 3244 safest would probably be some $70k Mercedes by iusecad Feb 27, 2003 (4:00 pm)
Question - is it possible to add a factory keyless entry system to an Interceptor? Would it just be plugging in some controller/receiver? Second question is how much do you suppose all this would run me?
#1811 of 3244 by rea98d Feb 27, 2003 (4:14 pm)
You can usually find those keyless entry kits at Target or K-mart for something like $30. Installation will be DIY, and I'm not sure what that entails, although I almost did this to my '95 Thunderchicken once.   As far as a redesign? Don't expect one anytime soon. The same basic platform goes back to '79, although with significant improvements over the years, especially the 2003's. Personal speculation, but I think the Mercury Montego and Ford 500 will end up replacing the Grand Marquis and Crown Victoria. I think the Grand Marquis and Crown Victoria nameplates have become too associated with "old people" cars to be viable in the marketplace, and the Taurus will probably never recover from the radioactive catfish design of '96, so Ford is hoping that one car, splitting the difference between the Taurus and the Crown Vic, will correct two of their marketing mistakes, make them more competitive in the family sedan market, and reduce the number of car models they have to make. Much as they hoped to replace both the Contour and Escort with the Focus on the small car end of the market. If Ford has ceased production on the Contour and Escort, I missed that notice, but replacing them with the Focus was the original plan. I wouldn't be surprised if Ford is doing the same thing with the 500.   As an aside, such a tactic worked for Jaguar in the '60's, when they replaced a small, medium, and large sized sedan with a single midsize car, the XJ6. Now, ironically, they're going the opposite way, having come out with a midsize S-Type, a small X-Type, and moving the XJ up to the big end of the spectrum with the 2004's.
#1812 of 3244 Shopping: Grand Marquis LS & Crown Victoria LX by dinu Mar 03, 2003 (8:17 am)
Am presently shopping for a 2003 GM-LS and a 2003 CV-LX . Will buy one of the two and would like to hear from owners of either one of these cars. The wife and I have checked out the GM-LS but not the CV-LX as yet. ...we'll do that next weekend. We like the GM-LS "Ultimate Edition" model a lot , especially pocket-book wise as compared to the 2003 Lincoln Town Car Executive we've also driven....which is very nice. We haven't driven the GM-LSE as yet but I believe this is a longer version of the LS and may not fit our standard-sized garage. Have to check that and other differences to the LS model.   Will appreciate any input on these two cars from you.
#1813 of 3244 Brand new'03 Executive $29,995, Beaverton, OR by kinley Mar 03, 2003 (9:56 am)
How much for the LS Ultimate?
#1814 of 3244 93 GM motor ticking only after it warms up by creativecomput Mar 04, 2003 (7:48 pm)
I have a '93 Grand Marquie that runs great, the only problem I have with it is that after it warms up the motor will start ticking if the car is under a heavy load. When the car is still cold you can put it under the same load and it runs fine. Has anyone had this problem, or can give me any advice. Thanks
#1815 of 3244 Re: 93 GM motor ticking only after it warms up by zslick Mar 04, 2003 (8:13 pm)
Creativecomput,   Is this "ticking" accompanied by any sort of bucking sensation. My 94 GM started some mild bucking on hard acceleration when warm at around 60,000 miles. If I remember right, there was a ticking sound, too. Problem was found to be ignition wires. Replacing them solved the problem. At 110,000 miles, I had a similar problem, although it was more prevalent when cold. It was found to be the ignition wires again. Hope this helps.
#1816 of 3244 dinu- 2003 GM Ultimate Edition by cfocfo Mar 04, 2003 (9:05 pm)
I bought a GM-LS Ultimate 2 months ago after taking a similar route to yours. I was interested in the GM-LSE, but never found one. Also checked out the Lincoln Town Car Executive, but I was looking at used 2001 models with low miles for the same $$ as a New GM-Ultimate. For what ever reason, I never shopped the CV-LX, so I can't offer comparisons of the 2.   I believe all 3 are reliable, safe, and a great value now as they are all being discounted because they're not cool and not AWD. But since I'm looking at the interior of the car 95% of the time, I was sold on the Ultimate as I like the interior a lot ! Especially the instramentation panel, steering wheel, and roomy leather seats.   Let me know what you thought of the CV after you drive it. Also, what are the rebates on the 2 ?
#1817 of 3244 Load Pinging "Ticking" by R92688 Mar 09, 2003 (9:18 am)
Creativecomput, Your ticking under load is just pinging from pre-ignition of the fuel in the cylinders. I had the exact same problem in my 95 CV with the engine check lamp ultimately coming on after many months of pinging. Well, it turned out that a Mass Air Sensor located on the air filter housing needed changing. After changing it, the car runs quiet and smooth with all fuel types. I hope this helps.
#1818 of 3244 Pinging by ronslakie Mar 10, 2003 (5:35 am)
Creativecomput - As noted above the likely candidate is the Mass Airflow Sensor. I have read on other forums that there is a simple method to fix this without replacing the sensor. This sensor can be sprayed with electric contact cleaner and will work like new.   Ron

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