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You are in the Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis
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Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Exterior, Sedan
#1787 of 3292 Recent convert to Grand Marquis
Jan 30, 2003 (5:34 am)
Hello all - I am a car enthusiast, used to work for Ford, cars are my hobby and my passion. Last year, I inherited a 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis, LS with antilock brakes and traction control. 37,000 miles and in almost perfect condition. I never thought I'd be writing this, but I love this car! It is smooth and quiet, reasonably quick, gets great gas mileage for a large car with a V-8, it has excellent brakes and much better handling than I expected. It doesn't feel like a boat, as I remember my father's American cars did from the 1970's. I also feel very safe driving it with the wife and kids aboard. Before getting the GM, I was seriously thinking about buying a new BMW, but now I am going to stick with the Grand Marquis.
#1788 of 3292 Can anybody comment...
Jan 30, 2003 (7:41 am)
...on how the '03 models compare to the '02 and earlier models? Does the hydroformed frame and rack-and-pinion steering make much of a difference in ride and handling?
#1789 of 3292 soboy, Grand Marquis
Jan 30, 2003 (3:44 pm)
I am loving my Grand Marquis also, unlike a lot of GM owners, I had to buy mine. Apparently, the GM is a car that is commonly left by the dearly deceased. LOL
That's OK, I still like it and knew it wasn't going to make it in the next Emimem video when I bought it.
It sounds like yours has many good years on it.
#1790 of 3292 CV, Sport LX Performance upgrade
Jan 30, 2003 (9:58 pm)
Was a long time user of Explorer forum but I've come into something new. 02 Sport LX, definitely not your father's crown vic. P-74 luxury package, leather buckets, console shift, 17 inch 5 spoke wheels, true dual exhaust, 235hp police interceptor motor,Handling and Performance Package. What can I do to add more punch? Has a 3.27 rear but was told I could go to a 3.73 ( also told not to be used if traction control activated) Any opinions on the JET POWER module from Jet performance products? they say up to 17 more hp. I'd like to deflate some import ego's with old fashioned US hp. Too old for a mustang....
Jan 31, 2003 (11:18 am)
if you haven't already, try http://www.crownvic.net
there's many knowledgeable folks that should be able to help you out.
#1792 of 3292 03 Frame and Steering
Jan 31, 2003 (2:36 pm)
andre1969 re:your request for comments on the above.I have had a new 03 GM for 6 months and approx 6600 miles now.Redesigned frame and new rack and pinion steering superb.Car feels,stucturely,very stong.No twisting or bending evident. Steering nicely weighted,and precise.Holds its course very well.Handling excellent.(you can almost see the guys in the BMWs trying to keep up on the long fast curves saying to themselves "I did'nt think American cars could go round corners like that").Lets not discuss the ride!!
Well, alright then. Its hard,even by European standards,but don't be put off by that.Do try one for yourself,for an extended period,and if you can live with the ride,the other fine qualities of the re-design are very rewarding.Kind regards.
#1793 of 3292 Drove an '03 LS premium 600 miles round...
Feb 03, 2003 (12:02 am)
and have mixed feelings about it. Originally thought this is my next car (currently driving a '99 Passport).
Excellent living-room sized seats with 8-way power plus lumbar on the front, adjustable pedals, very good road noise isolation, hugs the road nicely, soft on the bumps.
However, there are other things that left me scratching my head. The engine which has more torque and power felt rather weak. My 4x4 passport which is heavier can jump off the line with ease and with no sign of srain. The steering becomes numb and rubbery at about 80 mph and I had a hard time keeping the car inside my lane. In contrast, I can point and shot with pinpoint accuracy in my passport at 80 mph. And I thought their biggest improvement was the steering.
#1794 of 3292 A few things I can think of...
Feb 03, 2003 (6:44 am)
As for the acceleration, at least, well the LS Premium, according to Edmund's at least, has 224 hp 4800 rpm and 272 ft-lb of torque 4000 rpm. Well, Crown Vics and Grand Marquises have had around that much torque for probably as long as they've been putting 302's in them. In 1990, for example, the old 302 put out 270 ft-lb of torque, but it did it at 2000 rpm.
That LS Premium might have been stuck with fairly tall gearing, which would have kept it from taking off very fast off from a standstill. One one hand, you have peak torque coming on fairly high, which means the engine has to rev to get there, but then you have tall gearing keeping the engine revs down.
I dunno about the steering though. Maybe they still take out the road feel on purpose, because they think that's what the typical big Ford/Merc buyer wants?
#1795 of 3292 Acceleration and steering
Feb 03, 2003 (2:01 pm)
My passport has only 205 hp5400 and 215lb-ft3200 but it is quicker off the line and quicker at any speeds despite the heavy 4x4 body.
I can also easily nudge the car a couple of inches left or right at high speed to avoid a pothole or other wandering sleepy drivers. I can't do it in the GM.
Because of these, i have a second thought about the GM.
#1796 of 3292 Quicker off the line ? , GM ?!
Feb 03, 2003 (2:35 pm)
I guess it doesn't matter what the car is, even a Grand Marquis, there will always seem to be a "quicker off the line discussion", LOL.
Drmp, have you checked out the Marauder ?