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#1784 of 3244 I'm not sure... by andre1969 Jan 28, 2003 (9:44 am)
...but I think on the GM/CV, if you have ABS then you have traction control. At least it's that way on the '03 models, from what I've read. It may have been different in '00, but I doubt it.   I have seen ABS and traction control listed separately on cars from other manufacturers, though. I believe it usually went for $600 for the ABS, and then if you got traction control it was another $150 over that.
#1785 of 3244 frankss - congrats on new GM by cfocfo Jan 28, 2003 (1:14 pm)
That GS model with leather is one of the best values out there ! What a great car, enjoy !   John, I think you summarized the SUV era as well as I've seen. (# 1774) And it appears to be heading full circle - back to the form of the family station wagon.   I can name a few PROs of the WAGON: - the wagon seats 6 AND has a large cargo area without reconfiguation or jumping over seat rows. - less of the SUV bounce/jiggle - safer on the hwy, (lower center of gravity) - I would guess better MPG than SUVs (less wind resistence)   Sure, many will always see the family wagon as "uncool" or not having enough "style, just as many say the same thing about the CV/GM. But my guess is that SUVs will have peaked out in 2003, and that the American car makers better face the foreign competition better in the CAR market to prevent further overall market share loss. (I know GM had a small fractional gain last year).
#1786 of 3244 New Wagons ? ie Ford Freestyle Fx by cfocfo Jan 28, 2003 (1:59 pm)
Wagon or SUV ?   http://www.cars.com/news/stories/012103_storya_ap.jhtml?aff=natio- nal
#1787 of 3244 Recent convert to Grand Marquis by soboy Jan 30, 2003 (4:34 am)
Hello all - I am a car enthusiast, used to work for Ford, cars are my hobby and my passion. Last year, I inherited a 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis, LS with antilock brakes and traction control. 37,000 miles and in almost perfect condition. I never thought I'd be writing this, but I love this car! It is smooth and quiet, reasonably quick, gets great gas mileage for a large car with a V-8, it has excellent brakes and much better handling than I expected. It doesn't feel like a boat, as I remember my father's American cars did from the 1970's. I also feel very safe driving it with the wife and kids aboard. Before getting the GM, I was seriously thinking about buying a new BMW, but now I am going to stick with the Grand Marquis.
#1788 of 3244 Can anybody comment... by andre1969 Jan 30, 2003 (6:41 am)
...on how the '03 models compare to the '02 and earlier models? Does the hydroformed frame and rack-and-pinion steering make much of a difference in ride and handling?
#1789 of 3244 soboy, Grand Marquis by cfocfo Jan 30, 2003 (2:44 pm)
I am loving my Grand Marquis also, unlike a lot of GM owners, I had to buy mine. Apparently, the GM is a car that is commonly left by the dearly deceased. LOL   That's OK, I still like it and knew it wasn't going to make it in the next Emimem video when I bought it.   It sounds like yours has many good years on it.
#1790 of 3244 CV, Sport LX Performance upgrade by marlin77 Jan 30, 2003 (8:58 pm)
Was a long time user of Explorer forum but I've come into something new. 02 Sport LX, definitely not your father's crown vic. P-74 luxury package, leather buckets, console shift, 17 inch 5 spoke wheels, true dual exhaust, 235hp police interceptor motor,Handling and Performance Package. What can I do to add more punch? Has a 3.27 rear but was told I could go to a 3.73 ( also told not to be used if traction control activated) Any opinions on the JET POWER module from Jet performance products? they say up to 17 more hp. I'd like to deflate some import ego's with old fashioned US hp. Too old for a mustang....
#1791 of 3244 marlin77 by iusecad Jan 31, 2003 (10:18 am)
if you haven't already, try http://www.crownvic.net   there's many knowledgeable folks that should be able to help you out.
#1792 of 3244 03 Frame and Steering by james130 Jan 31, 2003 (1:36 pm)
andre1969 re:your request for comments on the above.I have had a new 03 GM for 6 months and approx 6600 miles now.Redesigned frame and new rack and pinion steering superb.Car feels,stucturely,very stong.No twisting or bending evident. Steering nicely weighted,and precise.Holds its course very well.Handling excellent.(you can almost see the guys in the BMWs trying to keep up on the long fast curves saying to themselves "I did'nt think American cars could go round corners like that").Lets not discuss the ride!! Well, alright then. Its hard,even by European standards,but don't be put off by that.Do try one for yourself,for an extended period,and if you can live with the ride,the other fine qualities of the re-design are very rewarding.Kind regards.
#1793 of 3244 Drove an '03 LS premium 600 miles round... by drmp Feb 02, 2003 (11:02 pm)
and have mixed feelings about it. Originally thought this is my next car (currently driving a '99 Passport).   Excellent living-room sized seats with 8-way power plus lumbar on the front, adjustable pedals, very good road noise isolation, hugs the road nicely, soft on the bumps.   However, there are other things that left me scratching my head. The engine which has more torque and power felt rather weak. My 4x4 passport which is heavier can jump off the line with ease and with no sign of srain. The steering becomes numb and rubbery at about 80 mph and I had a hard time keeping the car inside my lane. In contrast, I can point and shot with pinpoint accuracy in my passport at 80 mph. And I thought their biggest improvement was the steering.

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