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#1782 of 3244 Air bags... by andre1969 Jan 27, 2003 (4:24 pm)
...I think ultimately they were mandated, but the auto makers had so many years to get ready for them. They had to come up with some kind of passive restraint, either in mid-year 1988 or the beginning of '89. Ford went for motorized shoulder straps, while GM had those dumb seatbelts that were anchored in the door. You could fasten it, and when you opened the door you could still get out. Unfortunately, if your door flew open in an accident, or got ripped off and back, you were screwed. Chrysler started putting air bags in their big RWD sedans in mid-'88, but other cars had a regular lap belt, and then a shoulder strap anchored to the door. I had an '88 LeBaron coupe like that, but then an '89 Gran Fury with a driver's side air bag.   I think it was 1994 or so that dual air bags were finally required. Interestingly, the GM air bags that they offered on a few Olds, Buick, and Caddy models in the '70's was a dual system, and only cost about $300 as an option. For comparison, fuel injection on a Cadillac was something like $500 back then!   As for comparing a modern Grand Marquis to an '85 Grand Marquis, I'm sure the new one is even safer, thanks mainly to the air bags and the "softer" bumpers. In 1985 I believe they still had a 5 mph standard for bumpers, so at very low impacts, an '85 might sustain less damage than a new one, but at higher speeds, the newer one will protect the occupants better.   They always were fairly safe cars, though. I believe big Fords from '79 on up were rated better for safety than the big GM and Mopar products.
#1783 of 3244 2000 CV Traction Control by usaf52 Jan 27, 2003 (8:17 pm)
Reading the Edmund's review of the 2000 CV, the text says that the 4 wheel ABS includes the traction control. Is this part of one integrated system? If the CV has ABS does this mean it automatically has traction control??
#1784 of 3244 I'm not sure... by andre1969 Jan 28, 2003 (9:44 am)
...but I think on the GM/CV, if you have ABS then you have traction control. At least it's that way on the '03 models, from what I've read. It may have been different in '00, but I doubt it.   I have seen ABS and traction control listed separately on cars from other manufacturers, though. I believe it usually went for $600 for the ABS, and then if you got traction control it was another $150 over that.
#1785 of 3244 frankss - congrats on new GM by cfocfo Jan 28, 2003 (1:14 pm)
That GS model with leather is one of the best values out there ! What a great car, enjoy !   John, I think you summarized the SUV era as well as I've seen. (# 1774) And it appears to be heading full circle - back to the form of the family station wagon.   I can name a few PROs of the WAGON: - the wagon seats 6 AND has a large cargo area without reconfiguation or jumping over seat rows. - less of the SUV bounce/jiggle - safer on the hwy, (lower center of gravity) - I would guess better MPG than SUVs (less wind resistence)   Sure, many will always see the family wagon as "uncool" or not having enough "style, just as many say the same thing about the CV/GM. But my guess is that SUVs will have peaked out in 2003, and that the American car makers better face the foreign competition better in the CAR market to prevent further overall market share loss. (I know GM had a small fractional gain last year).
#1786 of 3244 New Wagons ? ie Ford Freestyle Fx by cfocfo Jan 28, 2003 (1:59 pm)
Wagon or SUV ?   http://www.cars.com/news/stories/012103_storya_ap.jhtml?aff=natio- nal
#1787 of 3244 Recent convert to Grand Marquis by soboy Jan 30, 2003 (4:34 am)
Hello all - I am a car enthusiast, used to work for Ford, cars are my hobby and my passion. Last year, I inherited a 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis, LS with antilock brakes and traction control. 37,000 miles and in almost perfect condition. I never thought I'd be writing this, but I love this car! It is smooth and quiet, reasonably quick, gets great gas mileage for a large car with a V-8, it has excellent brakes and much better handling than I expected. It doesn't feel like a boat, as I remember my father's American cars did from the 1970's. I also feel very safe driving it with the wife and kids aboard. Before getting the GM, I was seriously thinking about buying a new BMW, but now I am going to stick with the Grand Marquis.
#1788 of 3244 Can anybody comment... by andre1969 Jan 30, 2003 (6:41 am)
...on how the '03 models compare to the '02 and earlier models? Does the hydroformed frame and rack-and-pinion steering make much of a difference in ride and handling?
#1789 of 3244 soboy, Grand Marquis by cfocfo Jan 30, 2003 (2:44 pm)
I am loving my Grand Marquis also, unlike a lot of GM owners, I had to buy mine. Apparently, the GM is a car that is commonly left by the dearly deceased. LOL   That's OK, I still like it and knew it wasn't going to make it in the next Emimem video when I bought it.   It sounds like yours has many good years on it.
#1790 of 3244 CV, Sport LX Performance upgrade by marlin77 Jan 30, 2003 (8:58 pm)
Was a long time user of Explorer forum but I've come into something new. 02 Sport LX, definitely not your father's crown vic. P-74 luxury package, leather buckets, console shift, 17 inch 5 spoke wheels, true dual exhaust, 235hp police interceptor motor,Handling and Performance Package. What can I do to add more punch? Has a 3.27 rear but was told I could go to a 3.73 ( also told not to be used if traction control activated) Any opinions on the JET POWER module from Jet performance products? they say up to 17 more hp. I'd like to deflate some import ego's with old fashioned US hp. Too old for a mustang....
#1791 of 3244 marlin77 by iusecad Jan 31, 2003 (10:18 am)
if you haven't already, try http://www.crownvic.net   there's many knowledgeable folks that should be able to help you out.

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