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#1739 of 3244 marauder board by jerrym3 Jan 18, 2003 (6:29 pm)
Marauder board went dead; very little posting. Even the once lively Lincoln LS board is very slow.   Thought I'd try to liven this board up a bit with topics a bit off the beaten path, but if you folks feel that the Marauder's not a car to be discussed on a Gran Marquis board, ok with me.
#1740 of 3244 Marauder & jerrym3 - by harmar Jan 18, 2003 (8:26 pm)
Since some parts of the Marauder are likely to filter into "basic" GMs, I'm interested in owners' experiences; good or bad. Right now, I can't justify spending that much money on one, but maybe the lottery gods will shine upon me someday. (I'm not holding my breath.) Meanwhile, it's a Merc. Let 'er rip!
#1741 of 3244 I haven't bought a lottery ticket since I did the math. by kinley Jan 19, 2003 (10:38 am)
#1742 of 3244 Ford Crown Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis Board by cfocfo Jan 19, 2003 (2:50 pm)
Anyone else buy a new CV or GM lately ? I was hoping to share and receive car experiences, tips , etc on this board, but maybe the GM market IS mostly the Grandparents Market, (non-internet users ? : )   I am really enjoying the new Grand Marquis LS Ultimate a lot. The ride, electronic instramentation, leather, compass, outside temp, audio and fan buttons on the steering wheel, blah, blah, blah, etc !   One noticible noise after start up, sounds like an electronic motor running for about 20 seconds. I'm guessing it's the air suspension making load adjustments ? Anyone else have a guess ?   James130 & Genex1, I just went back and read your reviews and I could not agree more, the GM has many pluses. I took it out for some hwy miles to break it in and even at 90 mph, I felt secure about the steering, engine power, and overall saftey of the cargo. Even though I prefer flying to driving, we will be taking our next family trip in the GM and I am actually looking forward to it.   Best of luck ..... Back to the football game.
#1743 of 3244 Lottery odds - by harmar Jan 19, 2003 (6:06 pm)
I haven't bought one in months, either, Kinley. Michigan's odds are usually around 14 million - 1. When the jackpot gets to $30 or $40 million, though, I delude myself and waste a buck.
#1744 of 3244 LX Sport by jsylvester Jan 19, 2003 (6:50 pm)
I don't believe the CV LX Sport nor the GM LSE are being built anymore - I think the order guide for the LX Sport model code is now only available with a front bench.   I can only assume slow sales.
#1745 of 3244 by johnclineii Jan 19, 2003 (6:56 pm)
Or too close to the Marauder at less money...
#1746 of 3244 LX Sport and Marauder by jerrym3 Jan 21, 2003 (6:59 am)
Did a little dealership tire kicking yesterday. (Wife's really getting on me to sell the 89 Towncar; needs about $600 in work, but, damn, that car (except for a bit of wandering) runs/rides like brand new. When I hear that the TC's are 200-300,000 mile cars, I can believe it.)   First, I stopped at an L&M dealer in Clifton, NJ. Every GM (5) in the showroom was decked out with an add-on vinyl top, chrome wheel lip moldings, stainless decorative trim between front/rear wheel wells, and leather interior added to the base 24K GM.   I hate to admit it, but the half roof didn't look bad on the regular GM. Work quality looked pretty good. (Moldings were overkill.)   Then I saw an abomination; a black Marauder with a black half roof and all the moldings mentioned above! Too stunned to even ask the dealer what the hell he was thinking. The only good thing I can say about the modification is that the top shop designed a very attractive circular chrome Mercury god's head emblem that was installed on each sail panel (same place where Lincoln puts the Signature or Cartier emblem). Not as large as the Mercury decklid. ornament, but nice, nevertheless.   Then I went to a Ford dealer that had a sharp LX Sport black/charcoal on his lot with minimal options. Car listed for 28 plus; my price, A plan and $2,500 rebate, $23,500. Very appealing.   Dealer also had one 2003 powder blue TBird; no Ford discount (or rebate) available. Car had the black/white option interior. I noticed that the interior was, design/color-wise, almost identical to my 1958 Thunderbird; black seats/white inserts (even the shape of the seats was similar); black upper doorpanel/white lower trim; only design difference is that my 58's dash is solid black with a lot of chrome.   Are the LX Sport and GM LSE both really dead, except for what's on the dealer lot?   All together, the Merc dealer had seven Marauders in stock including the (ugh) "modified" one. The Merc's about 5K more than the CV LX Sport, but seems to have a lot more options in addition to the drivetrain. For 5K difference, I'd rather have the Marauder, but I don't know if my wife could get used to the stiffer ride.
#1747 of 3244 jerrym3 by 99windstar Jan 21, 2003 (8:24 am)
Wow. You do sound pretty angry. I didn't see the exhibit that you did, but I'll take your word for it.   And not to beat a dead horse: but the car is fast. I don't want to make excuses for Mercury, but I can see how that 6.5 time COULD have come about.   If a car mag can get a stock, "green" Marauder to 60 MPH in 6.89 seconds, it might be possible for a professional driver to get a properly prepared Marauder to 60 in 6.5. After all, we're talking about advertising or marketing here. It's not unusual for car companies to do things like ice down intakes, use racing octane gas, etc. Do their advertised performance numbers ever match up to the real world?   But even if the time you saw posted is a lie, the car is still fast. Stock Marauders are running high 14's at 95 plus in the 1/4 mile. With a top speed of between 119-125 (depending on who you ask) limited - and over 140 unlimited.   I don't see how you can complain. It is what it is. It's much faster than either my 97 4.6 'Bird, or '94 'Stang GT. In fact, the only thing that comes close is the 429 Ford XL I drove as a teen ager.   Obviously, the Marauder is not for you.
#1748 of 3244 by rea98d Jan 21, 2003 (11:33 am)
"When the jackpot gets to $30 or $40 million, though, I delude myself and waste a buck."   Just buy all 14 million possible combinations, hit the 30 or 40 mil on one of them, and more than double your money!

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