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#1631 of 3244 by jsylvester Nov 18, 2002 (8:27 pm)
Yeah, the different gearing in the rear (what, 2.75 to 3.27 for 2002), and the firmer tires and suspension are both trade-offs some like, and some don't.   I've always thought that firmer suspensions cause more rattles in a car, and is harder on the car in general, but I don't know if that can be proved.
#1632 of 3244 Will Ford resurrect CV/GM station wagon? by hwyhobo Nov 20, 2002 (12:48 pm)
More and more station wagons are coming back. In my area, Volvo seems to sell more wagons than any other style. The Japanese seem to have a wagon now in almost every model (and more are coming). Toyota Highlander is a bestseller. So is Subaru Forrester. German car manufacturers all have wagons now. Besides, many of the current SUV buyers really buy them as poor, gas-guzzling substitutes for wagons. And all I want is a good, ol' American full-size, RWD station wagon. Do you think Ford will resurrect CV/GM wagon in time, or will we let the Japanese and the Germans eat our lunch again?   Am I the only one who is waiting, or would others like to buy a CV/GM station wagon?
#1633 of 3244 Grand Marquis Changes Afte 12/02/02 by jsylvester Nov 22, 2002 (8:22 am)
List price of the GS is being reduced by $200, but the following changes are known, so far:   CD player is being removed from the radio, will be cassette only. Don't see it on the option list, though it is standard on the GS Convenience.   Cargo net in trunk is gone.   Automatic brake release is gone.   Pockets on front of seat is gone.   Good news, is antilock brakes and traction control is still standard, but if you want the CD player, you have to spend the $800 for the Convenience model. The appearance package on the Convenience model will be a different two tone combination and include two tone leather, but will set you back an extra $900 over the current one.   Don't know about the Crown Vic, yet.
#1634 of 3244 jsylvester:: You appear to be in the know, so, by kinley Nov 22, 2002 (11:01 am)
When will the Ford engine be replaced by a Lincoln engine in the Towncar? Say, 5.4 DOCS, 300+ h.p.?
#1635 of 3244 Traction control problem by gmarquis Nov 26, 2002 (8:22 pm)
My wife made a left turn and ran over a curb/island with the right rear wheel. I wasn't there, but she hit it hard enough to blow out a practically new Michelin radial tire, with a 4 inch gash in the sidewall. Fortunately the rim wasn't damaged too much. The problem now is that traction control keeps kicking in at speeds over 40mph or so, and won't let the car go over 40mph, ie. no freeway. If I defeat the traction control with the glove compartment, it seems to work OK, but I still think it may be downshifting when it normally wouldn't. This last part could be my imagination. Anyway, anyone have any ideas what might have happened, and if there is an easy fix? I jacked the car up and took off the wheel, and everything looks OK. There's no vibration that would lead me to believe that the axle was bent. The car is a 2000 Marquis. Thanks ahead of time for any help. Thanks, Ted
#1636 of 3244 Traction control problem by gmarquis Nov 26, 2002 (8:23 pm)
Correction. That was the LEFT rear wheel.
#1637 of 3244 by johnclineii Nov 27, 2002 (2:42 am)
There is more damage to your wheel than you think. The traction control works by the ABS computer counting the revolutions the wheel makes and comparing it to the other wheels. This wheel, perhaps due to damage you can't even see, is now turning faster or slower than the others.   OR the replacement tire is a different size...   OR the ABS sensor is damaged.   In any event, you need a repair, but it is likely one of those three things.
#1638 of 3244 by gmarquis Nov 27, 2002 (6:52 am)
Thanks. I'm hoping it's the spare. I did some research and saw what you mentioned. Although I have a full size spare, it's one of the Goodyear Eagles that came originally with the car. The new tires are Michelins so at least there is a the possibility that it could be the reason (crossing my fingers). I'm hoping so because at the lower speeds, possibly the mismatch isn't as noticeable to the computer, but above 40mph, it may be? Anyway, I'll get a new/same tire, and see what happens. Thanks again.
#1639 of 3244 traction control followup by gmarquis Dec 02, 2002 (10:52 pm)
So it ended up being the difference in diameter between the full sized spare (Goodyear Eagle), and my current set of tires, Michelin Pilot XGT H4 radials. Even though they are the 'same' size, putting the two side by side revealed that the Goodyear tire was close to a full inch smaller in diameter. Now it makes sense that traction control didn't kick in until ~40mph, when the computer started to detect the difference between the speed that the left and right tires were spinning at. Putting on a matching Michelin solved the problem. Funny thing is, the full sized spare was an option, so the regular spare is/was one of those dinky things. I didn't see in the owner's manual directions to turn off traction control when using one of those, which would probably be a must. Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember reading it.
#1640 of 3244 by johnclineii Dec 03, 2002 (3:42 am)
Glad it wasn't something major!

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