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#1598 of 3244 Handling in the Snow by msclarke Oct 16, 2002 (6:11 am)
I would really like to buy a CV or Marqui but I am concerned how they handle snow and the odd freezing rain. We live in Canada near Toronto. Even though we've had very mild winters lately I tend to keep cars anywhere from 7 to 10 years. I more concerned with the regular snow days than the big snow storms.   We owned a Thunderbird SC for 7 years and it was a fantastic car but I dreaded every winter, even with snow tires.   My wife will be doing a lot of driving this winter by herself and I'm thinking I should go back to FWD just to be safe. She is a good driver but wonder if FWD with snow tires increases the odds that she will be safe.   I'd appreciate your feedback.
#1599 of 3244 by rea98d Oct 17, 2002 (7:26 pm)
Msclark, take the word of a fellow T-Bird owner. Thunderbirds are ill-handling cars in rain and snow, compared to other RWD cars. My other two cars have both been Grand Marquis's, a '78 and an '82. The 82's running gear is a cruder version of what's under the car today, and it's lightyears better than my '95 Thunderbird in rain (We don't get much snow in Abilene, so I haven't got a chance to flog the '82 in the fluff yet. Nor do I look forward to doing that.) As for FWD, my understanding of the physics of driving is that having the engine over the drive wheels is like throwing sandbags in the trunk in the old days-it puts more weight over the front end, and helps you get going. As far as turning and stopping (much more important than starting in the snow), it has more to do with tires & traction than drive wheels, so, in my huble opinion, the advantages offerd by front-wheel drive are marginal, and the snow is occasional enough here in West Texas that I don't even consider it when picking out a car.
#1600 of 3244 TBird and snow by jerrym3 Oct 18, 2002 (5:13 am)
I agree with the earlier comments: the TBird is downright nasty in bad weather. I have the 3:27 rear and find myself using the second gear start more and more when the weather goes downhill.   I know this is not a TBird forum, but have any TBird owners replaced their factory Premium speakers with another brand and what was the result?   present cars: 89 TownCar, 94 TBird LX 4.6, 64 Galaxie 500XL convt, 58 TBird hardtop, 99 Mustang V6 (daughter's)
#1601 of 3244 1997 GRAND MARQUIS by hallison Oct 27, 2002 (5:44 pm)
This past week I was on a trip and the intake manifold split in front and all the coolant was ejected . I was lucky to find a repair shop of the main rd and also found a hole in the raditator All of these parts are made of plastic. The replacement intake came as a new design which consists of an aluminum part to replace the former plastic. Has anyone got info on a recall?? This cost me almost $ 1000.00 in repairs and I sure would like to get ford to reimburse me .Also I found a service bulletin # 0222 but cannot get a copy . anyone who can send me any info would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks, harold// email Kq4hmearthlink,net
#1602 of 3244 hallison - by harmar Oct 27, 2002 (10:11 pm)
Check www.alldata.com for TSBs. If the site lists them for '97, you can view the titles free, but there is a charge for the complete info. Good luck.
#1603 of 3244 hallison: My problem was taken to the Ford DSO personally by kinley Oct 28, 2002 (9:31 am)
and after the convivial conversation Ford agreed to pay for half of the repair costs. Find out where your nearest Ford District Service Office is and visit them with paper documentation of your repair. It worked for me.
#1604 of 3244 by rea98d Oct 28, 2002 (3:50 pm)
From what I understand, The recall covers only Mustangs, T-Birds, and Cougars. It will only cover a Crown Vic or a Town car if it was sold to a police department, Limo service, or taxi service. Civilian Crown Vics and Grand Marquis's are not covered. The reason being, T-Birds, Mustangs, fleet and police cars will see harder use than a Grand Marquis would, so Ford offers a recall on them. The recall is basically an extended warranty on the affected intake. If your car is cover, Ford will pay 100% of the costs to fix it. If it's not covered, you can do like Kinley and raise cain with higher-ups in Ford until you can get some or all of the repair costs back. The bottom line is that the plastic intake manifold is a sorry, no good piece of junk Ford stuck on there to save an extra buck, and in this case, their cheapskate beancounter attitude has come back to bite them in the butt. They've redesigned this piece numerous times, and until they started replacing parts of it with real metal (like the '95 and earlier 4.6 intakes), they never found a solution that worked. Until they go back to 100% aluminum intakes, I think the newer design will start cracking in places other than around the alternator bracket, it will just take longer to fail. I have no faith in whatever that plastic is they make intakes out of.
#1605 of 3244 Help! My friends think I'm nuts with grandma car by leasealanee2 Oct 29, 2002 (7:34 am)
I gang I hope someone can assist me. I have acquired a 1990 G Marq. I am being harassed by my friends that the car is "a car for a grand ma or grand pa" What can I tell them? I actually think the car drives smooth than any of the various models they drive. Should I just make it convenient for them to "drive" my car for them to give the old car a rest. I actually thought the car was excessively large when I first got it but it rides so smoothly.. My only complaint is that it seems to die out when I start it up I also believe that it could be an error on my part. Any info or help with this car and matter will be greatly appreciated SIGNED, do WOMEN UNDER 40 REALLY RIVE GRAND PA CARS?
#1606 of 3244 rea98d:I didn't "raise cain" with Ford. It was sociable. by kinley Oct 29, 2002 (10:10 am)
Had I "raised cain" - nothing would have been accomplished. Have you ever purchased anything from an angry salesman?
#1607 of 3244 Grandma and Grandpa Cars by robert08 Oct 30, 2002 (6:06 am)
Leasealanee, I know exactly what you are hearing from your friends-- I am 26 and have loved full-size, luxo-barges since I can remember. When I was in high school, I drove a Ford truck and my father had a 1992 Grand Marquis. I enjoyed driving it so much that I convinced him to trade vehicles with me. So there I was, the only student at my high school who was driving a fairly new, loaded, full-size, rear-drive car. My friends really didn't have much negative to say after riding in the Grand Marquis. Needless to say, whenever my friends and I had a trip planned, they insisted that I drive. Incidentally, I am now saving $$ to put toward a 2003-2004 Lincoln T/C... in a couple of years. Maybe I can find a nice one off-lease or a elderly owned trade in! My advise is enjoy your Mercury.

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