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#1541 of 3244 by johnclineii Aug 29, 2002 (2:16 am)
Nope. Dual exhaust comes with the handling package. No handling package, no dual exhaust, as far as I know. The dual exhaust means an increase in horsepower and torque, a different rear end ratio, and, to some extent, lower gas mileage.
#1542 of 3244 No Door Lock Code by beem Sep 02, 2002 (4:39 am)
When I purchased my 2001 GM LS from a dealer, they did not give me the door pad code. Any ideas on how to find the code to be able to use the door pads? The manual says it may be taped to the computer module. Where is the computer module? If its under the dash on the driver's side, it looks like I'll need to pull off or disassemble the plastic cover on the underside above the brake pedal.
#1543 of 3244 beem:Look on the hinge of the decklid & the manual by kinley Sep 02, 2002 (8:13 am)
tells you how to change the code so you can use a different one that came from the factory. I use my wife's birthdate as the alternate on both cars so one code opens both the T Bird and the Towncar.
#1544 of 3244 qmarquis - locked in park --- by harmar Sep 02, 2002 (9:05 pm)
I believe I recall a TSB re: some defective brake interlock switch on '00 GMs. Whether there is one or more and whether you can replace it/them yourself, I don't know. This TSB came out within a year of their introduction, if I remember correctly. Good luck.
#1545 of 3244 by rea98d Sep 03, 2002 (3:26 pm)
"The dual exhaust means an increase inhorsepower and torque, a different rear end ratio, and, to some extent, lower gas mileage. "   I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you meant the handling & perfornace package in that sentence, cause whether the car has dual exhaust, single exhaust, or whatever, has nothing whatsoever to do with rear end ratios.
#1546 of 3244 can I ask you guys something? by iusecad Sep 03, 2002 (7:34 pm)
which would you buy first? an ex 1999 Crown Vic cop car for $6200 or a 2000 Grand Marquis for $13000? (I think the Merc has the HPP because of the lacy wheels and dual exhaust, but thought it was not available on the GS in 2000.)
#1547 of 3244 by rea98d Sep 04, 2002 (2:55 pm)
Depends on how long you want to keep the car. If you're only looking at driving it 2 or 3 years, save your money and get the Ford. If you're looking to keep it 10 years, then definately get the Mercury. Being an ex-cop car, and a '99 to boot, the Ford will be pretty well used up. I'd guess it probably has 150,000-180,000 miles on it, just for a ballpark figure. There's also the luxury aspect to consider. The Ford was a cop car, and most police depts cheap on on luxury features in their cars. The Mercury is likely to have better interior quality and more "gadgets" than the ex cop car, have less miles, and less abuse, hence the higher price. I'm not saying there's not much life left in the Ford, but if you're looking for a car for the long haul, the Mercury would be a better choice. If you want a decent car for the time being, with plans to upgrade in the next 2 or 3 years, I'd save my money and go with the Ford. All of what I said has been generalizations, of course. You've seen the cars, I haven't, but ask yourself what you really want out of a car, and pick out which one of the two will best fit that, would be my advice. (My advice, BTW, is worth exactly what you paid for it
#1548 of 3244 rea98d by iusecad Sep 04, 2002 (4:28 pm)
when you say the Ford has 150,000-180,000 miles on it, are you figuring in idling time? Because the listing says it has 74k. [ Those are links, if you didn't realize - check out the spiffy 2-tone brown on the Ford! ] Otherwise I agree with everything you said, although the only real dificiencies with the Ford is the lack of center arm rests for the front seat; a "camper light" mounted on the ceiling; the antennae base still on the roof; and the unknown of how much idling it went through... I do like the spot light. How would the Merc look with one? :0
#1549 of 3244 Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis gas tank safety, revisited by gfranke Sep 05, 2002 (7:55 pm)
After what I must admit is a very cursory review of information available on various internet web sites, I have reluctantly concluded that a de sign flaw (gas tank situated behind rear axle) is probably responsible, at least in part, for the fires that sometimes occur after very high- speed rear end collisions. Apparently, even a high level Ford executive has conceded (I be- lieve under by questioning by some plaintiff's attorney) that more gas tank related fires have now been reported with the CV than with the notorious Pinto. That said, because of its laud- able performance in both the NHTSA and IIHS-HLDI crash tests, and its weight (which I've read de creases the likelihood of occupant injury or death in the event of a multi-vehicle collision, all other things being equal), I am interested in purchasing a CV. I know of one municipal pol- ice department that has arranged to have its ex- isting fleet of CV Interceptors undergo fuel tank modifications so as to hopefully reduce the risk of fuel tank rupture and subsequent fire (fuel tank bladder and safety-shield). My question is this: as a private citizen, would I have access to such services, and if so, are they affordable (the definition of affordable, I realize, is highly subjective)? The foregoing question as- sumes that one would have already followed the recommendations issued by Ford in a TSB, the sub- ject of which is reducing the fuel-tank puncture potential of a hex-bolt which, by virtue of its proximity to a vulnerable part of tank and its sharp edges, could conceivably puncture the tank in a rear end collision. Since, I only drive about 7000 miles a year, unlike alot of law enforcement officers, is this a case, to borrow from Shakespeare, of "much ado about nothing?" Please, if any one can offer any advice to help this writer put this thing in- to perspective, it would be greatly appreciated. If you've read the page of the Center for Auto Safety's Web site which is dedicated to the Crown you might wonder if this car is in fact safe (and I know it is!!!) Thanks for your consideration
#1550 of 3244 gfranke: Your answer lies in "The Merchant of Venice". by kinley Sep 06, 2002 (9:15 pm)

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