Last post on Nov 26, 2013 at 8:41 AM
You are in the Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis
What is this discussion about?
Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis, Exterior, Sedan
#3291 of 3300 Maybe I am just
Mar 23, 2013 (6:23 am)
too critical, but I would align my front end once a year, simply as a form of good maintenance, to make sure my tires last as long as possible...if I changed front end parts or bought new tires, I would consider an alignment absolutely mandatory...don't be so damn cheap...
#3292 of 3300 Re: Do I need an alignment after replacing all ball joints? [tbeb]
Mar 24, 2013 (7:46 am)
Absolutely, you need an alignment.
#3293 of 3300 Just got 2004 Crown Vic LX....seat belt chime won't quit....other questions
Nov 09, 2013 (6:24 am)
....I just bought a 2004 Crown Vic LX. Two issues:
1.) The seat belt chime / tone (?) goes off, after the seat belts are engaged, for 5 sets of 5 chimes, with about 5 seconds between sets. It wouldn't be that bad if that was it, but they will randomly start the whole process over again just driving down the road, 30-40 minutes later for instance. The seat belts are generic replacements from autozone or somewhere. The guy I bought it from said there was a chip / sensor in the seat belt that was very expensive to replace and said I could probably get one at a junkyard. IMO, he was bs'ing me.
2.) There is a replacement car stereo installed that sucks. Any suggestions on a replacement? It is a 'Dual' brand with a removable face plate. There is an empty half inch space below it.
3.) A previous owner was a smoker, though the very vast majority of the smoke odor is gone (I have a VERY high sensitivity to this smell, but even I think its barely noticeable....I don't smell like smoke after I get out of the car). Is there any 'go-to' products that I can use / spray on the car ceiling liner and floor carpeting to remove the odor? what about the leather seats? Do they harbor that smell also? I'd tend to think not...
Thanks to all who contribute!
Eric in Indy
Nov 13, 2013 (5:04 pm)
I have a 2004 Crown Vic LX Sport (floor shifter, dual exhaust) and I replaced my seatbelt with one from Ford...some things, IMO, should come from the factory, and seatbelts are one of them...mine cost $350 to replace...replaced at 110K miles, needs another one at current 210K miles...Honda warranted seatbelts for life, Ford does not...
I have factory radio/cd/cassette, and it functions...that's about all...part of me wants to replace it, and the other part says that a new audio system would be worth more than the car is now...
I would think a decent leather cleaner (Lexol?) might work...
How many miles on your odo, and, may I ask what you paid for the car?
#3295 of 3300 Re: evolk1 [marsha7]
Nov 14, 2013 (10:19 am)
Regarding the seat belts...never replaced seat belts before...are they difficult or easy? I can replace an alternator, but that's about as difficult as I've gotten over time. I just want to get an idea if it really IS the replacement seatbelts that are causing that chime/tone, before I go out and spend $700.
Thanks for the tip on the Lexol. I hope it works. What about on the ceiling?
I'd be surprised if your 2004 is not worth more, depending on condition. Mine has 137,000 miles on it. I paid a 'friend' $2,700. As I've driven it more and more, I'm pretty sure I got sold a bill of goods....
He told me about the chime/tone problem, as he did about the warped rotors on the back, and the tires needing to be replaced in the next 5-6 months.
What I've discovered he didn't tell me about, that I assumed I guess, is
1.)the missing full size or otherwise spare
2.) No driver's manual of any kind in the glove box.
3.) No code for the outside combination door lock pads (can I find out what that is somehow without spending a fortune?)
4.) the fact the high beams don't stay on when pushing the turn signal arm forward....they only go on when pulling it back...and then need to be held otherwise it goes back to standard beams.
5.) The headlight dial / switch only turns the headlights on or off...no parking lights only functionality.
6.) Only one ignition key...no door key....thus, I had to spend $69.00 at WalMart last week to get a second ignition key.
The car seems to drive quietly engine wise and is running fine, so I guess the other stuff is fairly minor, but nevertheless I feel he should have informed me of each...he drove the car himself for 2-3 months afterall.
He's a newer friend, but I seriously doubt I will buy a car from him ever again. He was acting like because he has a wholesale license, he was doing me a huge favor to sell it to me at that price....implying he could get $4-4.5k for it retail. Yeah, right.
I haven't run a CarFax on it yet, but will. He told me he had some sort of trade-only app on his phone and that it was clean except for a small front end mishap that somehow ruined the airbag sensor in the front, but didn't pop the airbag. He claims he replaced it. I have a sneaky feeling I'm going to find out quite a bit about this car when I get the CarFax.
Oh, well,....live and learn.
#3296 of 3300 Re: evolk1 [evolk1]
Nov 16, 2013 (7:02 pm)
Follow up....I did the CarFax and it reports no accidents, but was owned in New York for a good chunk of it's life, then sold to an auto auction in NY, then to an auction in Cincy, then on to Indy, where I bought it.
I had my mechanic look it over today and give it a test drive...he said other than the tires needing replacement immediately, he thinks I got a decent, fair, deal, which is all I was looking for. He is a 35 year mechanic and absolutely loves the Crown Vic line.
Also, I id'd the model of the Dual stereo in the unit, and it is the Dual HD250, a basic run of the mill $50 unit sold at WalMart. Fair enough....it has it's limitations, and that's fine, as I'm not an audio-phile, though I used to think I was one...then realized that I really didn't care all that much to have the best stereo in the world.
Nov 21, 2013 (2:59 pm)
Ford Crown Vics and Mercury Grand Marquis are probably two of the most reliable cars ever built. I travel quite a bit and you see both these cars as taxi cabs. I look for the mileage when I get one as a cab, and I routinely see 250,000 to 400,000 on the odometer. While I am sure these are not zero maintenance miles, cab companies are know to be frugal and so if these cars had too many problems, they would have been traded from the cab companies long ago.
For your radio, the size in a Crown Vic is a "Din" radio. This is basically double the size (height) from a standard "skinny" radio. If you have a gap, sounds like someone put in a standard radio. I would look at any audio store or Best Buy for "Din" radios, which will fit the space perfectly. Your other option would be to go online or to a junk yard and find a Crown Vic or Grand Marquis and purchase the radio. These are pretty good Ford radios, so the original in your car must have died for the previous owner to replace it with a cheap unit.
Bel Air Car Guy
Nov 22, 2013 (8:29 am)
The code for door is on the lock control module behind the drivers' door panel. You can remove the panel to see it, or a Ford dealer can pull it from the computer but will likely charge for it.
The high beam problem sounds like a switch problem to me but I did have to change the LCM on my 03. LCMs are a common problem on these.
Spray some Simple Green or better yet Benefact if you can find it to get rid of the smoke smell. You can spray it directly on the headliner parcel shelf visors etc. The Benefect has a thyme smell but it does go away and takes odors with it, it's good.
I'm getting ready to install a Double DIN into mine. DIN is the standard 'skinny' radios we remember, and they also 1-1/2 DIN and Double din. From what I understand it's pretty simple, but you do need to use a utility blade to cut little tabs off the top and bottom of the opening for it to fit. Don't cut the side ones!
Seat belts are simple to remove (the part with the latch anyway) but need a little muscle. You might want to simply find the wire going to the seat belts (that lets the car know if they're clicked) and either open or close the circuit to see if it turns off. If it does, leave it that way
#3299 of 3300 Re: sagf [bartbarter]
Nov 26, 2013 (8:36 am)
Many thanks! Never heard of the Benefact, nor the 'DIN' radio/stereo. Finally, what does the 'LCM' stand for regarding the high beam switch?
#3300 of 3300 Re: evolk1 [belaircarguy]
Nov 26, 2013 (8:41 am)
Thanks! Great information.