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Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Sedan
#1583 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [mjoshi]
Mar 24, 2008 (10:58 am)
The Elantra SE does have standard electronic stability control with traction control, which is not available on the Civic LX (rumors are that it will be available on the LX for 2009). Both the Civic and Elantra are highly rated by CR, with the Civic EX with a stick shift tying the Elantra SE with automatic in their rankings (both got 82 points), with the Civic EX with automatic getting 78 points.
Other than the ESC/traction control, the cars have similar safety features. The Civic has done very well in crash tests, as has the Elantra but the Elantra hasn't been tested by the IIHS for side impact yet.
The cars are quite a bit different in other aspects, though (I've driven both). Civic has crisper handling and slightly better fuel economy (29 vs. 28 mpg EPA combined), the Elantra has a roomier interior and trunk and a softer, quieter ride. They are both really good small cars, but you might prefer how one drives vs. the other. The Elantra SE also includes quite a bit more equipment than the Civic LX, e.g. alloys, fog lamps, leather wheel with audio controls, XM radio, rear center armrest, lighted vanity mirrors, trip computer, heated mirrors.
The other thing to consider is that although the Elantra costs less up front, the Civic has historically higher resale value. That can be important if you plan to keep the car for only 2-3 years. There are some great incentives on the Elantra now, with a rebate ranging from $1500-2000 depending on state.
#1584 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [mjoshi]
Mar 24, 2008 (10:59 am)
If driving a lot in snow, the Civic lacks Stability Control, the Elantra's main advantage. The Elantra is really a great deal, as it offers more features for less money. The Civic is a real hoot to drive though!
#1585 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [thegraduate]
Mar 24, 2008 (12:00 pm)
I own one..a 2006 EX automatic sedan and "hoot to drive" isn't one of the terms I'd use. More like stiff over road irregularities, lots of wind and road and/or tire noise, not happy to stay in 5th gear, twitchy steering combined with a tiny steering wheel (some may love this direct feel = "hoot to drive") that causes the car to change direction if you are only thinking about a direction change. It well known I do not like our Honda but without getting into my specific problems with the car I find I like the Elantra better on the face of it simply because it rides better, is larger inside, is quieter, steers and handles less like it is on crack (but well enough and by no means does it feel sloppy) and it does have a whole host of standard features simply N/A on the Honda. Oh, the Elantra is much cheaper than an EX sedan..ours was $19,680 in 2006 and the price has only gone up since then. I should add, before someone else does, that I am partial to Hyundai. Biased, that's me
#1586 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [targettuning]
Mar 24, 2008 (12:22 pm)
The Elantra is more cushy. The Civic is more sporty.
The Elantra is more relaxed. The Civic is more high-strung.
The Elantra is more boring. The Civic is more exciting.
The Elantra has a slower-responding, "big-car" feel. The Civic has a quick-on-its-feet, agile feel.
Targettuning likes a more comfortable ride and doesn't like the quick-handling Civic . TheGraduate's dad likes the sportiness of the Civic and didn't want a "boring" car.
The Elantra is indeed quieter, bigger, and softer riding than the Civic. But, that doesn't mean "better" for everyone. Just like quick-ratio steering and more agile handling is "better" for target.
For people like my folks (who have a problem-free 2007 with 42k miles) the Civic is fun. My dad said he loves the "point and shoot" feel of the Civic. I've driven it, and it is fun to scoot around in; much more fun than my Accord (even though my Accord is a good deal quicker in the straight line).
My folks got their Civic EX 5AT for a little under invoice ($17,280) , and got blue-book for their Accord when they traded in. The Elantra is a value-buy, but then the Civic isn't priced like a Rolls-Royce either.
#1587 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [thegraduate]
Mar 24, 2008 (12:30 pm)
For sportiness and a quick-on-its-feet, agile feel, I'd go for a Mazda3 vs. a Civic LX (or Elantra).
And I don't mind boring if it includes "boring" through ice and snow with the help of ESC and traction control.
#1588 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [backy]
Mar 24, 2008 (12:37 pm)
That's what I had given the advantage to (Elantra) to the poster's intial post. They were asking about snow-driving. As far as safety goes, I know my dad's Civic has 4-channel ABS, Electronic Brake Distribution, Front, Side, and Curtain Airbags, and I think the ACE body structure. It's a darn safe car, all it really lacks is the VSA (VSA, VSC, ESC, whatever ) But, at the moment, the Elantra leads the competition because it has stability control available. If the Civic comes in with it standard on all models, Hyundai will have to step it up and deliver on the GLS!
I can't help but imagine the Civic will have this for the MMC. Let's hope.
And, the Mazda 3 has SO MUCH road rumble with the 17" tires I couldn't stand it (the i version has 16" wheels and aren't quite as bad). The Civic sort of meets the Elantra and the 3 in the middle.
#1589 of 1641 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE
Mar 24, 2008 (3:24 pm)
okay today I had chance to test drive Civic & Elantra one after other and last back to my Mazda 3 Hatchback. To be honest neither Elantra nor Civic came anywhere close to Mazda 3. I was planning to trade-in Mazda 3 (call me confused) for Elantra or Civic but after test drive probably I'll have to think twice. My Mazda 3 gives me 25-26mpg during winter time city driving in upstate NY. Well between Elantra and Civic, Civic seemed to be better in terms of layout but road noise is more pronounced on Civic compared to Elantra. On other hand engine noise is more on Elantra compared to Civic so after driving both cars I'm now more confused. Seems probably try and drive Corolla next.
#1590 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [mjoshi]
Mar 24, 2008 (3:28 pm)
Make sure you have coffee and plenty of sleep before driving the Corolla.
May I ask why you are considering ditching the 3? I've always liked them, except for the tire noise and vibration in the cabin (my experience is with a 2004 3s and a 2007 3i - the 3i is seemingly better than the s).
#1591 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [mjoshi]
Mar 24, 2008 (5:27 pm)
I don't know why you'd want to trade in the Mazda3s hatch, but neither the Civic nor Elantra sedan is anywhere close to it. Nor is the Corolla, as you'll find out. The Matrix XRS, maybe now you are getting a little closer. Or if you can wait until this fall, the Elantra Touring will be out, which will give you the hatch/wagon configuration, sport-tuned suspension and steering, short-throw B&M shifter, and 17" alloys option (16s standard). So, much closer to your 3 hatch than the Civic or Elantra sedans, but with more interior and cargo room than you have now.
Or just hold onto the 3 hatch for awhile and wait about 18 months for the next-gen 3?
#1592 of 1641 Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [backy]
Mar 25, 2008 (3:00 am)
I've 04 Mazda 3 S and I personally am happy with the car. The problem is it is stick shift and my wife dont know how to drive stick. She drives Honda Odyssey which is almost 5 years old and with gas prices heading north we were thinking it is not worth hauling it around town. We were looking for something more fuel efficient. Mine is first gen 3 (04 model) and I probably can stick around longer with it.
One more thing I was offered $15300 yesterday at dealer on Elantra SE with mudguard and floor mats. Honda Civic LX seems to be coming down to $16984. So there is price difference of $1600. But on other hand when you compare that to depreciation TCO as per Edmunds it depreciates $8,840 over 5 years period whereas Elantra depriciates $12,546 at end of 5 years. So in that terms do you think Civic is better value ?