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Re: Elantra Resale Value [backy] by thegraduate
Oct 08, 2007 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 08, 2007 8:02 am)

I worry about the info I research and find on resale vs. that of real-world values. For example, the resale on my Accord was higher than that of what end-of-the-year 2006 Accords were selling for last year. That can't be completely accurate. OTOH, I have a buddy with a 13 year old (1994) Accord EX, 201k miles on it. He put a sign in the window with $4,000 on it. He had five calls in three days. He isn't selling yet, but wanted to see what he could get for it. He told me he figured he'd have to come down to $3k or so (heck, the car has been in two accidents, albeit minor ones).
 
I wouldn't pay $4k for a 200k mile car, but apparently the old Hondas don't drop as much as they say! That excites me somewhat, as I have 175k on my 1996 Accord, and with timing belt coming up, and a need for new struts, I'm looking at over $1200 worth of work it is going to need. I also have someone who REALLY wants this car, and has for years (for his son who will be 15 soon - he works on them and wouldn't have a problem changing the timing belt or water pump himself). I may have to check the paper to find out a fair asking price - blue book is undercutting me!
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Re: Elantra Resale Value [thegraduate] by backy
Oct 08, 2007 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 08, 2007 8:08 am)

Yes, you have to take published "resale prices" with a grain of salt. But I figure if the prices of my Elantra have been inflated, so have the prices of the Civic.
 
I happened to scan Elantra used car prices in a 500 mile radius the other day and was surprised how high they were. Of course, these are asking prices, but even allowing for dickering they were holding up very well I thought. Maybe all the good press the Elantra has been getting, e.g. recommended used car by CR, Edmunds's top pick for a used compact, good reliability scores etc. have been doing some good.
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Civic LX vs. Elanttra by backy
Jan 12, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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I got to take a nearly-new Civic LX for an extended drive this past week while traveling in Southeastern Florida, courtesy of Hertz. I put my comments here:
 
backy, "The Forums Test Drive Team" #198, 12 Jan 2008 1:23 pm
 
I was glad to have the five days in the Civic, as it gave me a good chance to compare it to the Elantra, which I've rented on several occasions. I was impressed in many ways by the Civic. I think it's better planted on the road than the Elantra, it has some nice touches in the interior such as a sliding center armrest, a thick steering wheel, and oil life gauge, and it had distinctive, sporty styling. But overall, for what I want in my next car, I'd take the Elantra SE. For hundreds less (MSRP) than the Civic LX, the Elantra offers a much larger interior (especially the rear seat), ESC, 4-wheel discs, five-spoke alloys, 6-speaker XM radio, audio controls on a leather-wrapped steering wheel, 60/40 rear seat opening to a larger trunk, trip computer, fog lamps; little touches like lighted vanity mirrors, overhead storage, two 12-volt outlets, auto on/off headlamps, rear center armrest; and of course the longer warranty. Also, the Elantra is quieter inside (less tire and wind noise) and has a smoother ride, albeit with less crisp handling. The Elantra gives up 1 mpg (EPA estimated overall) to the Civic. The Elantra is higher, meaning it's easier to climb into and out of than the Civic--more and more important as one gets older.
 
If someone doesn't need a roomy rear seat, likes the way the Civic handles, likes its low stance, and doesn't mind paying more to get a Honda, the Civic would make a fine choice.
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08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE by mjoshi
Mar 24, 2008 (10:24 am)
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I'm in market for a new car and narrowed down between Honda Civic v/s Hyundai Elantra. Both are similarly priced with Elantra being little bit cheaper than Civic. Mileage wise it seems both are on par. What is opinion of others ? I'll be driving in snow and seems Civic lacks certain extra safety features that Elantra SE has. Also seems like CR rated Elantra SE higher than Civic just because of extra safety features.
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Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [mjoshi] by backy
Mar 24, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: mjoshi (Mar 24, 2008 10:24 am)

The Elantra SE does have standard electronic stability control with traction control, which is not available on the Civic LX (rumors are that it will be available on the LX for 2009). Both the Civic and Elantra are highly rated by CR, with the Civic EX with a stick shift tying the Elantra SE with automatic in their rankings (both got 82 points), with the Civic EX with automatic getting 78 points.
  
Other than the ESC/traction control, the cars have similar safety features. The Civic has done very well in crash tests, as has the Elantra but the Elantra hasn't been tested by the IIHS for side impact yet.
  
The cars are quite a bit different in other aspects, though (I've driven both). Civic has crisper handling and slightly better fuel economy (29 vs. 28 mpg EPA combined), the Elantra has a roomier interior and trunk and a softer, quieter ride. They are both really good small cars, but you might prefer how one drives vs. the other. The Elantra SE also includes quite a bit more equipment than the Civic LX, e.g. alloys, fog lamps, leather wheel with audio controls, XM radio, rear center armrest, lighted vanity mirrors, trip computer, heated mirrors.
  
The other thing to consider is that although the Elantra costs less up front, the Civic has historically higher resale value. That can be important if you plan to keep the car for only 2-3 years. There are some great incentives on the Elantra now, with a rebate ranging from $1500-2000 depending on state.
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Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [mjoshi] by thegraduate
Mar 24, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: mjoshi (Mar 24, 2008 10:24 am)

If driving a lot in snow, the Civic lacks Stability Control, the Elantra's main advantage. The Elantra is really a great deal, as it offers more features for less money. The Civic is a real hoot to drive though!
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Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [thegraduate] by targettuning
Mar 24, 2008 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 24, 2008 10:59 am)

I own one..a 2006 EX automatic sedan and "hoot to drive" isn't one of the terms I'd use. More like stiff over road irregularities, lots of wind and road and/or tire noise, not happy to stay in 5th gear, twitchy steering combined with a tiny steering wheel (some may love this direct feel = "hoot to drive") that causes the car to change direction if you are only thinking about a direction change. It well known I do not like our Honda but without getting into my specific problems with the car I find I like the Elantra better on the face of it simply because it rides better, is larger inside, is quieter, steers and handles less like it is on crack (but well enough and by no means does it feel sloppy) and it does have a whole host of standard features simply N/A on the Honda. Oh, the Elantra is much cheaper than an EX sedan..ours was $19,680 in 2006 and the price has only gone up since then. I should add, before someone else does, that I am partial to Hyundai. Biased, that's me
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Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [targettuning] by thegraduate
Mar 24, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 24, 2008 12:00 pm)

The Elantra is more cushy. The Civic is more sporty.
The Elantra is more relaxed. The Civic is more high-strung.
The Elantra is more boring. The Civic is more exciting.
The Elantra has a slower-responding, "big-car" feel. The Civic has a quick-on-its-feet, agile feel.
Targettuning likes a more comfortable ride and doesn't like the quick-handling Civic . TheGraduate's dad likes the sportiness of the Civic and didn't want a "boring" car.
 
The Elantra is indeed quieter, bigger, and softer riding than the Civic. But, that doesn't mean "better" for everyone. Just like quick-ratio steering and more agile handling is "better" for target.
 
For people like my folks (who have a problem-free 2007 with 42k miles) the Civic is fun. My dad said he loves the "point and shoot" feel of the Civic. I've driven it, and it is fun to scoot around in; much more fun than my Accord (even though my Accord is a good deal quicker in the straight line).
 
My folks got their Civic EX 5AT for a little under invoice ($17,280) , and got blue-book for their Accord when they traded in. The Elantra is a value-buy, but then the Civic isn't priced like a Rolls-Royce either.
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Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [thegraduate] by backy
Mar 24, 2008 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 24, 2008 12:22 pm)

For sportiness and a quick-on-its-feet, agile feel, I'd go for a Mazda3 vs. a Civic LX (or Elantra).
 
And I don't mind boring if it includes "boring" through ice and snow with the help of ESC and traction control.
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Re: 08 Honda Civic LX v/s 08 Hyundai Elantra SE [backy] by thegraduate
Mar 24, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 24, 2008 12:30 pm)

That's what I had given the advantage to (Elantra) to the poster's intial post. They were asking about snow-driving. As far as safety goes, I know my dad's Civic has 4-channel ABS, Electronic Brake Distribution, Front, Side, and Curtain Airbags, and I think the ACE body structure. It's a darn safe car, all it really lacks is the VSA (VSA, VSC, ESC, whatever ) But, at the moment, the Elantra leads the competition because it has stability control available. If the Civic comes in with it standard on all models, Hyundai will have to step it up and deliver on the GLS!
 
I can't help but imagine the Civic will have this for the MMC. Let's hope.
 
And, the Mazda 3 has SO MUCH road rumble with the 17" tires I couldn't stand it (the i version has 16" wheels and aren't quite as bad). The Civic sort of meets the Elantra and the 3 in the middle.

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