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Honda Civic vs. Hyundai Elantra

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Re: 4AT vs 5AT. [rustum] by backy
Aug 27, 2007 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: rustum (Aug 27, 2007 3:00 pm)

If it's likely you'll need to resell the car in 1-2 years, the Civic might be a better way to go, if you can get a decent price on one. As for the transmission, I think the 5AT on the Civic is one reason it gets higher fuel economy than the Elantra, but I found the 4AT on the Elantra shifts very smoothly, so for me it's not an issue. Power-wise, the Elantra has plenty for me (there's only 2 hp difference in the 2 engines, and the Elantra has a little more torque).
 
One thing to look at is how often you'll use the rear seat to haul adults. That's one of the best features of the Elantra vs. the Civic. Also as noted, you can save a few thousand bucks up front on the Elantra, especially with closeout pricing on the '07s.
 
If you just need a good solid car for awhile, have you considered a slightly-used Elantra? I recommend a '04 or later. The '01-'05 Elantra is the #1 used compact car choice per Edmunds.com. And someone else will have already taken the big depreciation hit.
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Re: 4AT vs 5AT. [snakeweasel] by rustum
Aug 27, 2007 (9:51 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Aug 27, 2007 3:13 pm)

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I will see if i can get Civil at reasonable price.
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Re: 4AT vs 5AT. [backy] by rustum
Aug 27, 2007 (9:55 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 27, 2007 4:22 pm)

Hi Backy,
Thanks for your valuable information. I will check out new civic and elantra's. If i get a good price, will go with civic. Otherwise will check out new and used elantra's.
Presently managing with 2001 sonata. Not in hurry to get the new one. Just thinking of selling old sonata getting better car as soon as possible. Meanwhile, i have to spend around 500$ on my sonata to replace timing belt.
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Re: 4AT vs 5AT. [rustum] by snakeweasel
Aug 28, 2007 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: rustum (Aug 27, 2007 9:51 pm)

All in all I would go with the Elantra, slightly larger interior and a smaller price tag. With the Civic you will most likely never make up the price difference in resale.
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Re: 4AT vs 5AT. [rustum] by targettuning
Aug 28, 2007 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: rustum (Aug 27, 2007 3:00 pm)

I currently have a 2006 Civic with the 5 speed auto. I live in south central Pa where the terrain while not as mountainous as further west isn't exactly flat either. What I have observed is the Honda doesn't want to stay in 5th unless at highway speeds and the roads are flat as a pancake. Toss in a slight grade (especially when at lower speeds) and the transmission wants 4th. The bad news here is that you are seldom in 5th for a long distance but the good is that the transmission seems to shift smoothly. Honda geared 5th as an over-over drive so they can post high EPA sticker numbers but practically speaking the transmission is entirely too busy up-down shifting unless you live in Iowa or somewhere else in the flat mid-west.
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Concur by sandman46
Aug 28, 2007 (8:46 am)
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Living in South Florida, the roads are all flat and the car holds 5th gear beautifully, ample power for passing to. Just filled my tank and with a 50/50 split, got 32.7 mpg's...not bad I must say. Part of that driving was coming home from the dealer after the 2nd oil change with almost 10k on the clock.
This car impresses me more and more daily. Was looking at the Volvo S40 also, but with the 5 cylinder engine, doubt I'd have gotten mileage figures as good as these. Really iked the looks of the Volvo though and the '08's are even a bit nicer. But the wife has the Mazda 3s, which has the exact same body as the S40, just with lower headrests front & rear. That was the main reason she passed on the S40 actually, she couldn't see out the back or sides safely and the Mazda was better vision wise. She's still happy.
 
The Sandman
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Re: 4AT vs 5AT. [rustum] by backy
Aug 28, 2007 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: rustum (Aug 27, 2007 9:55 pm)

If you can wait for awhile (and it sounds like you can), you might see if Hyundai puts a loyalty rebate back on the Elantra. Since you are a Sonata owner, that could sweeten the deal on the Elantra by another $500-1000.
 
Another car you might check out in the meantime is the Versa. I think it's a very nice car for the money, with excellent crash test scores (has Good's across the board for the IIHS tests, like the Civic).
 
If you are looking for a good price on a Civic, now is the time to get one of the last '07s.
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Thanks for your information. by rustum
Aug 30, 2007 (9:14 pm)
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Becky, Sandman and Targettuning,
Thanks for your information. I have fixed my timing belt on my sonata. Now, it is running great. Looks like, i can manage with that some more time.
Today, i happen to visit Honda showroom. That guys is ready to sell Accord LX, 4Cy with AT with bargain price. But, he is ready to give only 3k for my sonata. I felt hard to trade in my sonata for 3k immediately after spending 400$. He is not ready to give much room for bargaining on civic.
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Re: Thanks for your information. [rustum] by backy
Aug 31, 2007 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: rustum (Aug 30, 2007 9:14 pm)

If you really want that Accord, you could check out the private party market for your Sonata, especially if it's in good shape and well-maintained.
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Elantra Resale Value by colloquor
Oct 08, 2007 (6:51 am)
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Many here on Edumunds.com denigrate Hyundai resale values. I just finished some research based upon the purchase of our 2006 Elantra GLS sedan automatic vs. a 2006 Honda Civic LX auto and a 2006 Toyota Corolla LE auto. The prices paid, including TTL, for the Civic and Corolla were based on an average of those posted here on Edmunds.com from buyers for those trims over a snapshot of time (and, forum postings) in 2006. Interestingly, the Elantra does quite well compared to the Civic and Corolla which contradicts the position of many anti-Hyundai posters.
  
The values (trade-in and private party) were taken from the Edmunds.com appraisal calculator. This trade-in value correlates with what my local dealer, and Intelliprice, would offer for a new car trade-in, so this value should be good enough for basic comparison purposes. The data:
  
2006 Elantra - Trade-in: $9,647 Private Party: $10,738
  
2006 Civic - Trade-in: $13,508 Private Party: $14,620
  
2006 Corolla - Trade-in: $11,429 Private Party: $12,613
  
Comparing total purchase price vs. trade-in value:
  
I paid $13,700, including TTL, for my 2006 Elantra. This equates to a $4,053 loss since purchase - in my case, purchased in December 2005.
  
The average purchase price, including TTL, based upon Edmunds.com postings for the 2006 Civic LX is $17,500. This equates to a $3,992 loss since purchase.
  
The average purchase price, including TTL, based upon Edmunds.com postings for the 2006 Corolla LE is $16,200. This equates to a $4,771 loss since purchase.
  
In each case, the first year depreciation hit is substantial, as expected. But, when you compare each based upon not the MSRP, but the actual delivered price, including TTL, the Hyundai fares quite well against their highly regarded competitors.

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