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Honda Failures
by butterflyjones
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Nov 12, 2006 (6:25 pm)
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When I bought a 1992 Accord LX in `1994 I bought an extended warranty also. I thought I would never need it since Honda made such great automobiles. RIGHT?? WWRRONG!!! The trannys overdrive went out, the right rear window actuator, the stereo speakers, and the power steering all had to be rebuild and or replaced before the 100K mile warr. expired. The power steering problem re surfaced and Honda refused to fix it since it was 500 miles past their warranty of 12,000 miles or 1 year. After seeing and reading all these comments and experiences that you all are having I don't believe Hondas quality is near what it used to be and I agree that the salesman and management are downright Arrogant. I made the mistake of going to a Honda dealer 50 miles from where I live and test drove the CIVIC and was treated like a floor mat. If this is how they treat their customers its a miracle they sell ANY cars. The car had issues and I definitely would not pay 20K$$ for it. From the pulling to the right and the hesitation in the tranny and the other problems it was a no-brainer!!! I walked!!!
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Re: . [taurus2]
by 6sptl
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Nov 13, 2006 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: taurus2 (Feb 17, 2000 3:58 am)
Hyundai makes a good car, even better of late. Don't build up a sweat about single points of experience with A or B brand, they may or may not reflect true brand reliability. Without a doubt Honda builds the best overall vehicles in almost every vehicle category. This is particularly true of the civic, it exudes quality and refinement, mind you, its not perfect and any other car may be better in one category or another. But when you add it all up, safety, performance, fuel efficiency, comfort and reliability nothing really measures up. The hundai is a cheaper alternative which is competitive but still falls significantly short. If price is not an overwhelming factor the civic is a far better choice.
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Re: . [6sptl]
by backy
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Nov 13, 2006 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: 6sptl (Nov 13, 2006 9:14 am)
There have been no crash tests for the 2007 Elantra yet. It has similar standard safety equipment as the Civic, but goes one better with standard 4-wheel disc brakes. So to say the Civic is safer is premature. Performance-wise, it's a toss-up, with the Civic quicker 0-60 but the Elantra quicker 5-60, 30-50, and 50-70, which are all more real-world than 0-60. The Elantra also brakes better (shorter), but the Civic has better skidpad numbers. (All numbers from C/D, December 2006 issue.) The Civic does have an advantage in fuel efficiency. Comfort? Have you driven the Elantra? C/D rated it higher than the Civic for comfort. The Elantra has a LOT more interior room than the Civic, which may be important for some buyers. And as for reliability, the 2006 Civic has had quite a few problems (per reports in Town Hall). The Elantra had a very good reliability record in its previous generation, but it's too new to know how the new model will fare.
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Re: Honda Failures [butterflyjones]
by quietspirit
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Nov 13, 2006 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: butterflyjones (Nov 12, 2006 6:25 pm)
Woah! Was the car two years old when you bought? Or was it older? That's alot of problems for a Honda unless it was older than two years when you bought it, then I can understand. I assume the dealers were arrogant because of the pride they have in Honda cars. That's one of the reasons why I've been researching other manufactures' cars, too. Planning to spend alot of hard earned money on my first car and I don't want to give it to the wrong person.
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Re: Let's get back to it [percussionist]
by quietspirit
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Nov 13, 2006 (9:28 pm)
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Replying to: percussionist (Nov 11, 2006 6:13 am)
Very informative and will bookmark this as something to think about while I'm car shopping.
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Mexican Rabbit?
by targettuning
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Nov 14, 2006 (7:08 am)
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Re: Mexican Rabbit? [targettuning]
by targettuning
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Nov 14, 2006 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Nov 14, 2006 7:08 am)
Somehow I only got the heading for my post in before it got posted so I end up finishing my thoughts here.
I researched the question and the Rabbit IS assembled in Germany however the engine is Mexican made and the automatic transmission is Japanese. So, in very broad terms it is Mexican made...sort of. German part content is in the 70's % range somewhere, I can't recall exactly.
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Re: Mexican Rabbit? [targettuning]
by pat HOST
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Nov 14, 2006 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Nov 14, 2006 7:47 am)
Might be better if you posted that in one of the Rabbit comparos or discussions.
(I know we've been talking about it here, but we really need to get back to Civic and Elantra.)
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Re: Mexican Rabbit? [pat]
by targettuning
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Nov 14, 2006 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: pat (Nov 14, 2006 8:00 am)
I know, but I took a beating about this issue earlier and wanted to clear it up....no more, I'm done with the Rabbit.
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Re: Mexican Rabbit? [targettuning]
by pat HOST
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Nov 14, 2006 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Nov 14, 2006 11:06 am)
Okey-dokey!
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