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You are in the Mazda 626
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Mazda 626, Sedan
Sep 28, 2001 (1:12 pm)
I can assure you that Mazda will keep its identity while platform sharing. Take a look at the Ford Escort ('91-'00) and Mazda Protege ('90-'98). They both sat on the Protege platform and shared their top-of-the-line engines (Mazda 1.8L DOHC BP-series, also used in the Miata). There was absolutely no identity crisis there. Another example is to take a look at the Kia Sephia. To this day, it still sits on the 1990 Protege platform and uses a derivative of the Mazda 1.8L BP-series engine. Again, absolutely no identity crisis.
The Escape and Tribute are pretty close. However, other than the drivetrain, the platform, body, and suspension were designed by Mazda. It was Ford's choice not to differentiate the Escape FROM the Tribute. The body cladding is different, as well as other styling differences (badging, grill, accents, wheels). The suspension, although basically the same, is tuned differently. Even the transmissions are tuned differently. The steering in the Tribute uses a quicker ratio. A simple test drive won't show their differences, but when really pushed hard, the Tribute handles and accelerates better. The interiors are basically the same, but the Tribute uses higher grade plastics and better seats. One would never guess that the Escape/Tribute sit on the 626 platform.
Other examples of currently succesful or planned, identity-keeping platform sharing are:
- Lincoln LS/Jaguar S-Type/Ford Thunderbird/2003 Ford Mustang (DEW-98 platform)
- Mazda 626/Mazda MPV (626 platform)
- Ford Mondeo/Jaguar X-Type (Mondeo platform)
- Mazda 626 replacement/Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable/Volvo midsize (new Mazda platform)
- Mazda RX-8/2004 Mazda Miata/future Jaguar roadster (RX-8 platform)
- 2004 Mazda Protege/2004 Ford Focus (new Ford/Mazda platform)
I have a lot of faith that each one of the vehicles mentioned above will have, or already have, their own identities.
Oct 01, 2001 (7:13 am)
Interesting example you mention, because I drove a '91 Escort GT with a Mazda engine for 107k miles.
The powertrain held up well and was fun to drive, but the car had lots of annoying problems. The fuel gauge was always wrong, pieces of insulation fell off from the doors and peeled off around the windshield. The motorized mice belts didn't work on the passenger side, intermittently not opening when they should. It has more squeeks than a mouse trap and rattled more than a snake. It had loose carpeting, and just generally poor fit and finish.
So maybe that's not a great example. I felt like it was a wannabe-Mazda.
I have only seen Escape up close, and the interiors looks cheap to me. Vinyl on the seats, exposed stitching, and the column shifter don't appeal to me one bit. The Tribute looks better, at least from the outside. I do like the idea of 200hp combined with its light weight.
The LS and S-Type are nice cars but there are some quality issues there. We'll see how the others fare, but I'm skeptical.
Oct 02, 2001 (12:28 pm)
"One would never guess that the Escape/Tribute sit on the 626 platform."
The Escape/Tribute rides on an all new platform, no parts shared with the 626. this is according to numerous reports when the pair were introduced.
Oct 02, 2001 (1:04 pm)
I heard the new platform was loosely based on the 626, also. Anyone have hard data?
#865 of 2044 Price for New 626?
Oct 03, 2001 (2:13 pm)
Does anyone have a suggestion for a fair price to pay for a new 2001 626LX 6 cyl with auto, Bose and Luxury Package (seems to be a freebie)?
Input would be appreciated.
#866 of 2044 Check...
Oct 03, 2001 (2:38 pm)
Oct 03, 2001 (3:07 pm)
Carsdirect.com show price of $18,192. You can usually show this to any dealership and they will sell you the car at that price. Remember the 1.9%APR for three years and 4.9%APr for up to 5 years.
#868 of 2044 1994 automatic 626
Oct 04, 2001 (7:27 pm)
The transmission won't go in reverse or neutral. Mechanic says need another transmission. Only have 72,000 miles on it. Looked at a Mazda board and this seems to be a common problem. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get this fixed cheaper than the $1800-2000 quote?
Someone said that Mazda would pay for the tranny and I just need to cover labor..
Help..otherwise I love the car. We had the catalytic converters fail and melt and the Mazda people covered it as it is a California car. Had trouble with local Washington dealer till Calif called and said to fix it.
Oct 05, 2001 (12:51 pm)
My mazda specialist does this with a tranny repair:
1. uses factory remanufactures transmissions.
2. Installs a GOOD after marked transmission cooler.
3. Uses Lubegard or Wearguard to lower the transmission operating temperature
4. changes fluid and adds the additives above every 15,000 miles.
When I checked on a friends car a few months ago, the bid you were given was inline. Unfair, but correct.