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Mazda 626, Sedan
#501 of 2044 Platform Sharing...
Mar 26, 2001 (2:29 pm)
I have heard a great many speculations on the platform future of many Mazda models. First off, I have to say that the 626 platform has served both Mazda AND Ford very well. The MPV is built on a modified 626 platform, as is the Tribute/Escape. Of course, in the past, the MX-6/Probe was built on the 626 platform. But, as good as it is, they do need to be updated from time to time.
Cross-platform sharing is something that should be done. The Jaguar S-Type and Lincoln LS are built on the same platform. The upcoming Jaguar X-Type is being built on the Ford Mondeo platform. The 1991-2000 Escorts were built on the Protege platform. The current Protege is built on the Mazda Capella platform, and the upcoming RX-8 will be built on a modified Miata platform. Cross-platform sharing reduces cost significantly. And just because two cars share the same platform, it doesn't mean they'll use the same engine.
Although I would love to blame the Tribute/Escape woes solely on Ford, I cannot. The Tribute/Escape are built on a Mazda platform, with most of their bodies and mechanicals designed by Mazda. The current MPV has gone through more than it's fair share of recalls, again a Mazda design with a Ford powerplant. One has to realize that these vehicles are all-new built in all-new factories with all-new equipment. Mistakes are expected, but not accepted. At least Ford/Mazda are recalling the vehicles right away, unlike some other companies which sit on the problems (GM and Mitsubishi come to mind) until a government agency forces them to take action.
From some of the more recent reports I have read, the new 626 will ride on an all-new platform and serve as a basis for the next redesign of the MPV and the upcoming Nextourer-based cross-over vehicle. Besides, even if the 626 moves to the Mondeo platform, it will be all the better for it. The current Mondeo platform is a world-class platform, as is the Focus. Mazda can still bolt-on their own engines and suspension to them.
#502 of 2044 Not a Mondeo...that's been ruled out
Mar 26, 2001 (2:48 pm)
Mar 26, 2001 (2:52 pm)
Could we bring back the 1993-1997 626? Unfortunately, I think Mazda made a mistake by going to the larger, softer, plusher, kinder 626 we have seen since '98. I liked the smaller, sportier, lighter 626. Oh, and can we have the MPS concept version from Europe? I remember something about all-wheel drive and a blown 2.5L with something like 275 horses galloping through a 6-spd manual transmission... Please....
#504 of 2044 I never could understand...
Mar 26, 2001 (3:05 pm)
why the Capella never made it to these shores. With the 2.5L(I know, it's a 2.0L V-6) and a much lighter, tighter car, the Altima would be dead in its tracks. Must have had something to do with the fact that they were confined to build it with parts and labor from Detroit(no hard feelings).
As long as we are dreaming, how about a Millenia 2.3L in a 626? Turn the boost up a hair, add a 6spd and stiffen the ride up. Hmmm, I may have some spare parts around here, anybody have a donor car?
Mar 26, 2001 (3:21 pm)
I was thinking along the lines of going back to Mazda's roots in the U.S. and having a 626 Type R or Protege Type R with the 13B or 20B motors in them. That'll bring some definite Zoom to the line-up. There's nothing like humming along at 10,000rpm... I miss my RX-7... Not very practical, but it was a blast to drive! Any word on an RX-5 Miata? We know the 13B fits in it, so why not?
#506 of 2044 Another thing...
Mar 26, 2001 (3:25 pm)
I know it wouldn't make much sense in the new Ford global family, but have there been any talks of resurrecting the Amati nameplate or bringing the Eunos line to the US?
#507 of 2044 Obi-Wan, now there's a name I have not heard in a long time...
Mar 26, 2001 (3:35 pm)
Or I meant Amati.
It's dead as dead goes. Mazda learned the hard way in 1993/94 that they just aren't big enough to support 2 sales channels.
Rotaries(eyes light up):
I talked to an engineer one time who worked on a project to put a 13B in a Prote. His English wasn't the best, but a grin like that crosses all borders.
Don't expect the rotary in anything here but the coming(fingers crossed) RX-8.
Mar 26, 2001 (4:46 pm)
Generally, what was taken away from the suspension in the '98 redesign was restored for 2000; there's still the matter of the extra 200 lb or so (and about 2 mpg, in my case), but I don't think I lost anything in tossability by switching from a '93 to a Double-Ought. The same Major Annoyance Zipping Down Alleyways stunts I used to pull, I still can.
#509 of 2044 1997 Mazda 626 LX V4
Mar 26, 2001 (6:33 pm)
I saw a Mazda 626 here. 1997, LX, leather seat, ABS, moonroof, 37,000 miles ... Dealer asks $11,000 first and now decreased to $10,000.
But I do not how reliable for this year's 626? And what is the reasonable price for this car?
Mar 26, 2001 (7:34 pm)
The new Tribute may be on a Mazda platform, but the car seems to have a lot of Ford content in it. Just look at the interior - there is NO WAY that thing is a real Mazda. The switchgear is Ford, the way the door closes is Ford, the plastics used inside is Ford, the powertrain is Ford, and I can go on and on.
The new MPV has only had 2 recalls if I can recall. One was a voluntary bumper recall after IIHS tested the 5MPH bumpers on the van, and another was the incorrect sticker in the door jamb.
Take a look at the MPV, then look at the Tribute. You will see a world's difference in the way everything is put together. The interior on the Tribute screams 'cheap' and 'tinny' compared to the MPV's interior.