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You are in the Mazda 626
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Mazda 626, Sedan
Jul 05, 2003 (8:56 am)
I noticed CR didn't reccomend the 626 for the 94 model year with good reason but I thought post 96 was better. I did have a 98 626 for 3 years that I leased and it was fine but it had like 28,300 miles on it so that isn't alot of miles to prove a cars reliability. As far as Toyota is concerned they have quality control issues like any other manufacturer.
As far as 626 being on used car lots I have seen 2000 and 2001 Accord's and Camry's on Domestic Big 3 car lots too. That doesn't mean their bad cars. That just means somebody wanted another car and was willing take the heavy loss on their trade-in. The new 6 doesn't have a Ford Tranny. Thats a great thing.
As far as depreciation is concerned Domestic Big 3 cars and Hyundai's have worse depreciation than Mazda's do. I know Mazda's don't have as good as resale as Honda or Toyota but that doesn't mean their bad cars.
Jul 05, 2003 (9:57 am)
carguy: as I've posted before, I'll let and April new car edition of Consumers Reports do my talking for me: 626 vs anything made by Toyota....enough said.
#1450 of 2044 Toyota has issues too:
Jul 05, 2003 (12:29 pm)
They went cheap on the power equipment on the power/door locks in the 98 Corolla. They also have had problems with the 02+ Lexus ES300 with the 5 speed automatic transmission. I just think people are more patient with Toyota to straighten out their quality control issues than they are with Mazda.
#1451 of 2044 newer cars for sale
Jul 05, 2003 (4:47 pm)
It is not unusual in the least to see a barely used car for sale. Happens every day and it happens with EVERY mass produced vehicle out there. I can find one year old Hondas, Toyotas, Lincolns, Chevys, Lexus, etc, etc, etc. People default on loans everyday, get their cars repo'd, trade in for something bigger, something smaller, something softer, something in a different color, whatever. Doesn't mean ANYTHING.
#1452 of 2044 newer cars for sale
Jul 05, 2003 (5:46 pm)
People generally do not trade their one year old cars in if they are happy with them. Yes there are exceptions, but also quite a few year old vehicles are traded in because they are either lemons or have some hidden defect that nobody knows how to fix.
#1453 of 2044 You can easily open
Jul 05, 2003 (6:53 pm)
the Saturday car ads and see one to three year old cars listed along with new car deals. There are 3 year old I30's, Avalon's, 626's, Accord's, alot of 00 Altima's and 99-00 Galant's I notice listed in there too. These cars are not bad cars by any means but people do get tired of cars easily. I say if you plan keeping a car for only 3 years you mine as well just lease it but than again alot of people drive cars more than 36,000-39,000 miles in 3 years. 3 years 36k-39K miles for 3 years is the usual term for 3 year leases.
#1454 of 2044 Re: mazda 626 2002?
Jul 05, 2003 (7:55 pm)
You may want to run a carfax report if you're concerned about the car's history. You're not going to find any repair history on it, but it may shed some light on why it's back on the lot so soon. If the car was obtained locally by the dealer, they may also be willing/able to provide you with it's service history. I've come across 1-2 year old models that were former rental, fleet, or commercial vehicles, or even stolen, repo'd, whatever. Get a report then decide whether you're comfortable with the vehicle's history. Then decide whether the transmission is an acceptable risk for you, assuming you can get a consensus on whether or not it's still a problem in the 2002 models. Of course just because it was traded in so early does not mean that it's a loser. Let's not forget that a 2002 model could very well have been manufactured in 2001, which could make it 2 years old by now. You guys have heard of 24 mo. leases now, haven't you? My grandfather used to buy a new car every two years just because he liked to drive a new car. Doesn't mean his trade-ins were trash to be avoided by everyone else.
I'll also reiterate my belief that despite the negative experiences of p100 and maxx4me, which we're all brutally aware of by now, generally speaking the 626 is not a bad car. Several of us on the board seem quite happy with our vehicles, and for good reason I'm sure. There are plenty of other cars out there that you'd have a lot more trouble with. Furthermore, if you'd rather have a Toyota, be prepared to fork over the extra $$$, but don't expect it to be flawless either. Usually you get what you pay for, but Toyota has it's problems too.
Jul 06, 2003 (4:09 am)
Thanks a lot for the advice.
This is what i got about the fact of the car:
- it was an ex-rental car from Hertz.
- it is about 18000 mileage
- it is asking for US 10,300
I am going to test drive the car on Monday, and also have it checked by a third party. If everthing is fine, most probably i would buy the car.
One more thing to clarify:
I heard that the car warranty does not cover the transmission problems. is this true?
#1456 of 2044 2002 Mazda 626
Jul 06, 2003 (5:56 am)
Mazda warranty on their vehicles is 3 years or 50K miles, whichever comes first. (I think they increased it to 4 years, 50K miles on 2003 models). This is a bumper to bumper warranty and it covers everything on the car, including the transmission. I do not know if Mazda limits their warranties on ex-rental vehicles, this is something you should find out about from Mazda. As you know, many companies do not offer the same warranty on products used commercially. For example, if you buy a weed trimmer, your warranty will be much less if used commercially. Use of a car for rental purposes is considered commercial use.
The price is OK, and it illustrates the deep depreciation these vehicles take: this asking price is about half of the original MSRP. Three years from now, this car will be worth about $ 5K.
Jul 07, 2003 (5:17 am)
My advice to you is to stay away from that car not because of it's reliability issues but because it was a rental car. Only god knows who used it and ABUSED IT. Get a used car that had only one owner and that will save you lot of money and trouble down the road.