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#4025 of 6042 2002 A4 impressions and 2004 infor
Jul 17, 2002 (8:10 am)
I had an A4 1.8T (2002) for two days as a loaner -- it had many options including a sunroof. I did not notice any problems with it -- headroom wise.
I rode in the back seat and found it to be less cramped than the 2001 A4's.
I liked the new A4 -- currently I find it to be about the best Audi out there (well, apart from the S6 Avant -- which is off the scale nice).
I read some time ago (in European Car or Car magazine) that there were new Audi's coming in 2003 (new as in refreshened, moving forward designs). That has apparently been postponed -- or probably more likely, was never in the cards anyway. Now, both Car and European car talk about new Audi's for 2004 and 2005. Now, I cannot imagine much will be done with the A4 line, since it is the freshest. But the A8, I believe IS the oldest (1994) and the A6 (1997) and the upmarket moves that are being pushed by VW and Audi AG, would lead me to believe new A8 for 2003 (but I am not certain it will be calendar 2003 and model 2004) and new A6 and TT in 2004 (magazines claim model year 2004 A6 and TT will have new bodies). The A8 Avant will be here too -- again, I imagine as a model year 2004.
Now, let me make one thing perfectly clear -- the magazines often seem to only distinguish markets "when they actually know something concrete." The A2 and A3 which are oft mentioned are apparently NOT US bound for the forseeable future. New A8's, A6's and TT's ARE. Apparently there will be much more widespread availability of Audi's with V8's -- I can find no further mention of 2.9T's in any magazine, for example.
The new S4 will be a 4.2 V8 equipped car and will have both auto and manual transmissions -- this information came from the "quattro quarterly" a publication of the Audi Car Club of America which generally has reliable information and generally has information after everyone else's speculation articles. The Audi Car Club often sites Mark Trahan (of Audi of America) or Len Hunt (VP of AoA) as its source.
One last note -- while attending the Audi Driving Experience in Seefeld, Austria in January of 2001, we got to use A4 2.5TD quattros with 6spd manuals and sport suspensions -- this, IMHO, would blow away the A4 3.0 owners with it's low end torque, economy, weight distribution, lack of anything that would give away that it was a diesel and probably reliability.
At the time, and continuing through today, I would say that AoA has brought the second best A4 to the US (the 3.0), when they could also bring the 2.5TD (which at 180HP and lots of low end grunt would be an instant favorite -- simply becuase the dieselly-ness has been wiped out of the thing).
#4026 of 6042 Mark--3.0 vs. 1.8T
Jul 17, 2002 (8:53 am)
It sounds as though you prefer the 3.0 to the 1.8T. If so, why? Thanks.
Jul 17, 2002 (8:37 pm)
I test drive an A4 with a sunroof today and fit just fine. With the drivers's seat adjusted to fit me, there isn't a lot of room for a passenger behind it if they are the same size as me. Oh well, I won't be sitting back there.
I test drove a Mini as well today, and I have to say that I'm impressed with the amount of interior room they have... for front-seat passengers.
Jul 19, 2002 (3:45 am)
Jill-- You can't be still waiting, are you?? I have to assume that you are now in possession of your new Avant but I'd think that you'd have posted your impressions if you were.
#4029 of 6042 Can you believe it?
Jul 19, 2002 (7:22 am)
I'm still waiting. If you've been reading on Audi world there was a hold up in the ports--or at least in the Port of Wilmington--it was supposed to be here on the 4th. Then the 11th. And it didn't get here this week either. I'm getting disappointed and discouraged. And I'm even looking at other cars in my spare time.
#4030 of 6042 3.0 vs 1.8T only in the US
Jul 19, 2002 (7:51 am)
In January, I was in the holy land (Ingolstadt, Munich, etc.). At the Audi factory, they have a "showroom" or showcase of their models. The 1.8T car can be equipped with EVERYTHING the US 3.0 has (plus some things we can't get here -- like sat nav).
For my tastes, knowing that I would like leather, sat nav, 6spd, etc., I would probably consider the A4 3.0 over the 1.8T -- but the 1.8T is GREAT in every way (with the stick shift).
My comments were more a lament that the fantastic 2.5 turbo diesel is not available on our shores. I think it would be the best of the lot (until the S4 comes along).
Now, if I am wanting to tune my Audi, I would always pick turbo gasoline engined models.
The A4 1.8T and the 2.7T A6's (today) are the best candidates for performance tuning.
Putting the 225HP 1.8T in an A4 would be very nice, too.
Alas, not here (and as far as I know, the 225HP 1.8T is not available in the A4 body even in Germany.)
#4031 of 6042 It's getting kinda quiet here.....
Jul 23, 2002 (2:21 pm)
Let me get the enthusiasm going.....
Someone living in CT reported on AW that he had seen the 03/04 S4 and A4 Cab running around over there.....anyone here had seen that in their neighborhoods?
I haven't seen them here in Chi town.....
Jul 23, 2002 (2:23 pm)
I've seen one in the driveway of a guy who I know is an AUdi technician at the Audi dealership here in the city. I must say that I like the sedan much better. The Cabriolet I saw was silver w/ a black top and 16" (non-sport) 5 spoke wheels.
#4033 of 6042 10,000 miles of non-stop grin...
Jul 23, 2002 (5:33 pm)
Just want to keep you guys posted, especially Mark. I did notice a major improvement on gas milage and fun factor after around 8000 miles or so. The car has been flawless. Mark, you were so right...I again thank all of you for the wonderful information displayed on this board.
#4034 of 6042 nyccarguy / misc
Jul 24, 2002 (7:30 am)
Actually among the new A4 sedans, avants and Cabs, I would take the new Avant. It looks much better than the old one and even better than the sedan, in my opinion.....although I saw a just-waxed black on black 3.0Q sedan with the 17" rims on the road this morning and it's gorgeous.....which was followed by a 02 A6 4.2 which was even better.
Saw an S8 (black with tinted windows) yesterday with busted plastic backup light cover.....my heart almost stopped pounding for a second. Too bad the guy turned at the next intersection.....almost wanted to roll down the windows and yell, "I felt your pain, man".
Oh by the way my 01.5 A4 1.8T hit 21,900 miles with no problems. May take it to Toronto from Chicago in August on its first long road trip :> Can't wait for that.