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Audi A4 2004 and earlier
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#1240 of 6042 6Spd Tranny by markcincinnati
Jun 05, 2001 (7:53 am)
Yep -- I read that the A4's would have 6spd's -- configured as they are for US customers (the US customers ONLY get the 3.0 V6 and the 1.8T for the time being, but in Europe the number of A4's/Engine options are many times what we are offered).Then, in the July Road & Track it says 5spd manuals. Period. Now, I do not claim that I believe everything I read in these enthusiasts magazines. Who knows when or even where they got their information.
I told a German Audi employee in Ingolstadt that I had had a 1997 Audi A8 with a 5spd automatic transmission that was NOT a Tiptronic -- and he was dumbfounded. He said he was only aware of a 4 speed non-tip auto and a 5 spd tip tranny (this was in early 1997 -- I had picked up my 1997 A8 in November 1996). The point is, even within an organization of this size, the people in middle and upper management don't always know the real deal.
The Audi Factory Reps -- in Germany -- who spoke perfect English, assured me that there would be an S6 saloon with a 6 spd manual transmission in my ("our" -- the US, that is) future. What I have been led to believe at this moment is that there will be only an S6 avant with a 5spd Tiptronic available in limited quantities badged as a 2002 model.
Some "one" somewhere must know -- 'cause they're producing brochures (one would think) already for the 2002's. But finding out what content, options, prices and models is getting more difficult -- at least that has been my experience.
Let's hope that R&T is wrong and that there will indeed be -- even as an option -- a 6spd manual transmission on at least one of the new S$'s.
#1241 of 6042 About the printed brochures and magazines, Mark...... by lauk0dg
Jun 05, 2001 (10:57 am)
I work for a major commercial printing company and we print some of the major ones a few months in advance (about a month before the magazines hit the subscription readers). I will definitely keep an eye out when I am at the divisions and peek at what they're printing. Who knows..... maybe it's the 2003 S6 brochure.....I better stop dreaming.OOps, my bad Scirocco. Yup those are H6-3.0 engines. Boxer engines that show up in Porsches too.
Billy
#1242 of 6042 Golfhound/Laud0g. by fdxboy
Jun 05, 2001 (1:54 pm)
Golf...I paid 4% over invoice..but that can't be really taken into a lot of consideration considering they offered $800 more for my trade in vs. any other place. Still it was very easy and Bill will not screw around with you (email if you would like...yabs1972
aol.com) Laukd0g...I think you are talking about Busse woods? Just East of Woodfield? Also how did you get the Autolocking/unlocking to work? Recode at dealer. I would like to get that done..too bad my 5K service at my current pace is not until Sept. (900 miles per month average).
#1243 of 6042 Fdxboy by lauk0dg
Jun 05, 2001 (6:10 pm)
Oh....I dunno the name of that forest reserve but yeah it's just east of Woodfield.I got the auto lock/unlock done by Bryan.....he brought along his laptop, wires, cables, and the VAG-COM tool with him at the KK run.....so people who want their cars have that recode done will pull up next to his Avant, and he hooked up a cable to the diagnosis port below the steering column to the left.....ran the program, typed in a new code, and you are done. He also ran his tool to check error codes (if any) on our engines. Lucky for me, none yet. I'm sure if he comes to the next event, he will bring along his laptop and stuff so you can do that quite possibly during the barbecue. Million thanks to Bryan for that recode.
900 miles per month? Man I wish I can do that....but I got only one car and when me and my girlfriend go out we ALWAYS take my car (gotta use her Civic sometime), I'm putting on like 1,300 miles per month. Ouch.
Billy
#1244 of 6042 fdxboy/Billy by golfhound1
Jun 05, 2001 (6:57 pm)
Thanks fdxboy for the tip. I won't have a trade-in, so we'll see what happens.Hey Billy, don't sweat it. When I get mine I'll be putting on over 2K a month on it. I figure if I have to drive a lot, I might as well have fun doing it. Just in case, anyone have any high milage/usage stories they would like to share. I've heard Audis take milage well. Thnaks.
#1245 of 6042 Golfhound by lauk0dg
Jun 05, 2001 (8:31 pm)
Well if you don't have a trade-in, that'll be like my situation. All the dealers in Chicagoland bashed about my 96 Accord with 120k miles on it, even it's in perfect working order. I ended up selling it over at Carmax cuz they gave me the highest rate. Well at Schaumburg Audi they offered me third to the lowest trade-in values (Continental Audi and Honda of Lisle basically offered me ridiculously low buy-out for the Accord and hinted they don't want to take it) and if you don't have a trade-in, you can get a low price there. Without bargaining I was able to get $2100 off and a little back-and-forth negotiating (was trying to see where the bottom of the lake was) I got it at $2340 off the MSRP. Check with Mike Burden over there and see what he can do. Definitely shop around as dealers will have various levels of stock available on the lot.That said, it's not a rule that Continental Audi offers low buy-out rate. Fdxboy got a good deal on his Jeep (right??) and understandably my Accord got LOTS of miles so dealers got to wholesale it rather than sell it in their lot. So yeah, shop around and good luck and let us know if you need any help.
Billy
#1246 of 6042 Oh yeah Laukd0g... by fdxboy
Jun 06, 2001 (3:34 pm)
My 97 Wrangler was only getting $9000 from various dealers(carmax $9300) but like I said Continental gave me $9900...SOLD!!! It was in nice condition with low miles. Hey make sure you make her take the Civic now and then..I will not even go into the city with my car. We take her '97 Stratus(junk!). As far as the reprogramming goes..I will look into it. I also understnand the dealer will do a one time recode for free! So I may try that first. How many people showed up to KK on sunday? All A4 or any TT(my next car)?#1247 of 6042 Fdxboy by lauk0dg
Jun 07, 2001 (6:41 am)
hehe our Chicago content must be scaring people away.....Anyhow, well we drove mine even when we go into town.....and nah it won't do me any good if I say her Civic is a junk and drive hers instead :> Cuz her 97 Civic coupe is actually a pretty handsome looking coupe too.
For reprogramming, various guys commented that the dealers WON'T do the auto lock/unlock one, for fear that the locks won't be unlocked in case of an accident. People commented that's mostly BS.
For the KK run, about 12 A4/S4's (I think I'm the ONLY A4 sedan there, 3 A4 Avants, 8 S4 sedans w/3 Nogaros), 1 A6 2.7T and 1 TT225 painted in Ferrari Yellow and 19" BBS wheels (VERY sharp). The run before that was even more dramatic.....in addition to the Audi's, a Viper and a S2000 showed up. We are trying to get one of the guys's friends to bring over some Ferrari's.....we'll see what happens.
OH by the way, ALL the A4's are SILVERRRRRRR :>
Billy
#1248 of 6042 ESP by markcincinnati
Jun 07, 2001 (6:44 am)
I found this web site while surfing on www.dogpile.com yesterday:
This site is dedicated to providing information about ABS and ESP (intelligent handling systems). After reading the materials, I must say that a compelling argument is made that the vehicles that should have had ESP first (assuming all can't adopt this technology at the same time) are SUV's. Of course there are very few SUV's -- and virtually no popular SUV's that have this technology.
What a shame.
After reading the materials, I believe you will be convinced that you don't want ESP, you will come to believe you NEED it!
Click on.
#1249 of 6042 ESP....and other safety stuff by lauk0dg
Jun 07, 2001 (7:14 am)
are less effective UNLESS they TEACH the drivers how to use them. Like ABS for example, people were not taught at driving school how to use them. People don't know they need to apply MAXIMUM pressure on the brakes. OK so there comes brake assist.Another example. They taught us to brake when you try to reduce speeds. Fine, except they should teach people, when they try to reduce speed in a curve, they should visualize what's coming up and reduce speed, i.e. brake, BEFORE entering the curve, NOT during the curve. So there comes ESP.
My point is, getting a license here in US is WAY TOO EASY. I was born in Hong Kong and over there we need to pass various and more vigorous tests to get your driver's license. I was shocked to find that I can pass my driver's test here with 8 hours behind the wheel (no prior driving experience) and only 1 point off the 25 possible points I can lose before I can even fail the test. My then-new 96 Accord before the Audi racked up 120k miles, and it doesn't have ESP or ABS, and I went through winters in Wisconsin and Chicago and I didn't have one set of snow tires. NO accidents whatsoever. I'm not trying to say I'm a good driver. OK I must be lucky.
I have no doubt in my mind, ESP and ABS DO work. I'm just saying, even with these good tools and people being ignorant about how to use them, they will still get these freak accidents like oversteering and crash into the curve sidewall. WITH the tools and proper braking/acceleration technique (like take the gas easy if you are spinning in snow, I'm just amazed to find people ramming the gas for 10 minutes when they're stuck in snow), the roads will be one safer place.
I guess the fundamental thing is, they should teach people that driving is an event they should not be doing with things like talking on the phone (hands-free kit is useless anyway, cuz I think talking is the blame for losing concentration), eating, drinking, putting on makeup, etc. I was in England and it's an OFFENSE if you take one of your hands off the steering wheel UNLESS you are shifting. You are required to be THAT involved.
Like one German driver said, "I am comfortable doing 120mph in the Autobahn, but hell no I am not even going to drive in US."
Again, ESP and ABS should be standard WITH standard features such as half a day to a full-day of advanced driving school.
Billy
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