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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#9843 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [navigator89]
Jul 19, 2005 (3:02 pm)
I need a lil' bit of both. I am a true driver and if I were able to spend a good $70k+ I know I would be ordering a 750i. Price wise I have found both the S430 and LS430 in that price range, my main reason for looking at them. I do need more space and luxury than an IS can offer. I have considered a loaded ES but I wonder would a loaded new ES really be better than a loaded used LS...or at that a S-Class. Ultimately, the one car I would blow $70k+ on with out a second thought would be a BMW 7. But for my current price range I havent been able to find a 2002-present 7 for less than $45k.
#9844 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [truluv_cars]
Jul 19, 2005 (3:27 pm)
If you need a little bit of both I doubt you will find it in either the LS430 and S-Class. They're not known for sportiness.
But the best balance of luxury and sport can be found in the midsize luxury performance sedans segment. This includes the Acura RL, Cadillac STS, Lexus GS300/GS430, Infiniti M35/M45, BMW5 series, Audi A6, Lincoln LS, Jaguar S Type, and Volvo S60.
I also doubt that a loaded new ES and a used loaded LS would have a similar price, I'd expect a $5K-$10K discrepancy.
Prices for those cars range from $40K-$60K, and they're pretty satisfying.
Have you also considered a luxury SUV or crossover?
#9845 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [navigator89]
Jul 19, 2005 (3:55 pm)
All that taken into account, I'm considering purchasing of a used LS430 or S-Class...I know my pricing and I have found prospects of each.
#9846 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [truluv_cars]
Jul 19, 2005 (5:13 pm)
Do you want to share the details of those prospects and get the opinions of the good folks' hanging out here?
I guess I'm not sure what kind of help you are seeking ...
#9847 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [truluv_cars]
Jul 19, 2005 (5:27 pm)
Great question. Should be a long lasting thread. While I don't have a specific answer, maybe the place to start to only consider factory certified cars. I think we can all agree that you don't want to own one of these beasts out of warranty. If you like the big Bimmers so much, what about a CPO 7 Series? The new body style (i.e., '03 and later?) is now down to around the mid 40's, despite the barrells of bad ink.
Or, for a guy who wants to drive the latest for the least, an '04 XJ Jag can be had for only the low 40's.
Wait till just after Christmas and the above cars should be under 40K.
#9848 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [truluv_cars]
Jul 19, 2005 (6:49 pm)
My local Lexus dealer lists two 2002 LS430s at $40K , not certified. Don't know what his no trade (cash) price would be. They both have about 40K miles.
#9849 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [truluv_cars]
Jul 20, 2005 (3:37 am)
“I am a true driver and if I were able to spend a good $70k+ I know I would be ordering a 750i.”
If you can tolerate high mileage you can get an 02 745 for well below $40K. I would try to verify highway mileage. As you probably know, a car that has lived its life on the highway has a LOT less wear and tear.
“I have considered a loaded ES…”
Well If you are going into this area and consider yourself a true driver then you may want to consider the 5-series. That’s right in your sweetspot for price. You can get an 03 cream puff CPO 530 or 525, or non-CPO that is still under original warranty. You can also find 540s. A friend of mine bought a luscious CPO 01 540 with SP and 33K miles last year in the low 30s.
Plus you get great mileage out of the 5-series 6 cyls. Anywhere from 27-30 highway. I’ve heard even more, and I’m not talking about the speeds at which grandma drives either.
Jul 20, 2005 (6:29 am)
The LS430 is not really the greatest car for a "true driver". Its an unequaled highway cruiser, but some curvy back roads are not really its forte. If you want the reliability of a Lexus, I would suggest a GS430. You can get a fully loaded Nav\ML 430 with low miles on the cheap.
#9851 of 24726 Re: The $30k-$40k used car question... [designman]
Jul 20, 2005 (8:50 am)
If you can tolerate high mileage you can get an 02 745 for well below $40K...
Is this not the year you want to AVOID at all cost ? The 2002 745 was, well, a big phat dud reliability-wise.... If you must buy a used Bangled 7-series, get one post 2002, period. Sometimes, spending a little bit more $$ can get you a much better car. Try expanding the price to the low to mid-40K range and the choices are limitless....
Good luck with your search. BTW, any LS430 of any year (2001 - date) is a much better choice than any BMW of any year (like you don't know that already, eh !) bcos you need not worry about reliability or any issue with the LS....
Jul 20, 2005 (11:28 am)
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