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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#9676 of 24723 Ok I am official disappointed by jstyle

Jun 20, 2005 (3:22 pm)

I've been talking to my dealer about going from my current E500 to the new S class and putting in a deposit for a purchase. I now know that I am very secure in my decision today to go with the 2006 Audi A8L....Perhaps not the most sporty design but nothing beats the interior and now with a bad 7series rip off interior the Audi looks incredible. It is even better priced with the rear seat entertaiment for the kids and all the options. Put the right wheels on and it is great looking.
 
I am very sad to say that my E500 is the last of the great looking Mercedes.

#9677 of 24723 Can you say Zoom Zoom by bobcatman

Jun 20, 2005 (8:31 pm)

Ahh, I guess the designers were lookin at the Mazda RX8 too much. Those fender flares are very similar to the racy RX8. Problem is that they look glued on like a cheap 33K GM SUV while the Mazda design just flows agressively integrated. The maroon one just looks tacky, too aggressive for overall shape. Oh well time for the big guns fromTokyo to clean up this next round ..That future Lexus sketch looks like it was done by a 6th grade designer-wannabe lol. I can assure all that it will look far better than that.

#9678 of 24723 Re: merc1, navigator89 [merc1] by paldi

Jun 20, 2005 (9:09 pm)

Replying to: merc1 (Jun 20, 2005 3:02 am)
Comparing the maroon photo to this Phaeton...
 

 

 
I think I like my big 2004 VW better. Just needs a 2006 update on the grill and wheels.

#9679 of 24723 Re: merc1, navigator89 [ljflx] by merc1

Jun 20, 2005 (9:25 pm)

Replying to: ljflx (Jun 20, 2005 9:01 am)
Well I'm not surprised that you don't like the new design. I'm not too big on it myself, but part of that is because I don't take car design changes too well, especially when the outgoing car was such a good looking design. I'll need to see the car in person before I can make a final judgement. I didn't like the CLS either until I saw it so there is still hope with me.
 
The reception to the new S-Class has been far warmer on other boards, but everyone is up in arms over those wheel arches, which to me are the only exterior flaw, or at least until I actually see the car. The interior quality looks to be on the level of Audi/VW, again this based only on looking at it.
 
That LS sketch - that honestly looks good to you? To me, again imo, looks like a Japanese Cadillac/Lincoln and is like totally forgettable like the 1995 LS. I think its far to early to base anything on such a sketch though.
 
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#9680 of 24723 Re: merc1 [lexusguy] by merc1

Jun 20, 2005 (9:30 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 20, 2005 10:04 am)
Well I don't think they did it for style. German cars are about form following function and in such a class of car as the S/7 nobody is using the shifter anyway, so I personally don't see what the big deal is. Ditto for something like the M-Class. I would have a problem with an E-Class or 5-Series with a colum shifter, but on a S-Class, not a problem to me. It wasn't don't to be luxurious, it was done for function, plus they aren't nearly the same design as in a cheap minvan.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Lexus does the same with the next LS. Am I reading correctly where they're coming up with a 7-speed tranny for the next LS too? Lexus might not do the Idrive/MMI/Comand Controller thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if the shifter moves.
 
M

#9681 of 24723 New S doesn't do it for me... by pablo_l

Jun 20, 2005 (9:36 pm)

Add me to those who think it a very unimaginative and borderline clumsy design. The European design advatage fading fast with the current designers...
 
http://www.autobild.de/projektor/projektor.php?artikel_id=9008&pos=1

#9682 of 24723 merc1 by lexusguy

Jun 20, 2005 (9:59 pm)

I dont think it will. The big reason for the move in the Benzes was the knob controller right? (or the ML's "cup holders" while it waits for a knob) I would be shocked if Lexus went along with the iDrive bandwagon, and if there's no knob, I dont see a reason to move the shifter. What would an extra gear have anything to do with that? I'm expecting an interior similar to the style that the GS and now IS have started, just with an extra 500% dose of fancy powder. The traditional gated style shifter should be right where it always is.

#9683 of 24723 Re: merc1 [lexusguy] by merc1

Jun 20, 2005 (10:23 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 20, 2005 9:59 pm)
Well we'll see. I asked about the tranny because they seem to be following Mercedes in more than one area, not anything to do with the shifter location.
 
M

#9684 of 24723 merc1 by lexusguy

Jun 21, 2005 (12:19 am)

Well, I think what Lexus is trying to prove is the old "anything they can do, we can do better". For the LS to be more attractive than the S-class would be quite a victory for them.

#9685 of 24723 Re: merc1 [lexusguy] by merc1

Jun 21, 2005 (1:21 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 21, 2005 12:19 am)
Well, I think what Lexus is trying to prove is the old "anything they can do, we can do better". For the LS to be more attractive than the S-class would be quite a victory for them.
 
Well if something like that happens it will be a two firsts. An attractive LS and a LS that looks better than a Mercedes.
 
The new S would be so much better looking without the swollen wheel arches...
 
M

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