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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#9561 of 24726 Re: 2007 S Class [ljflx]
May 24, 2005 (8:25 pm)
Not sure, but anything is possible. The S-Class is about the most important model launch image wise, if not the bottom line that Mercedes has. This is the real chance for Mercedes to strike back at a segment that has been overrun with newer, better made vehicles so they may hold it back to make sure that the launch goes much better than the 2000 S-Class did.
If the S and LS do hit the market at the same time I feel sorry for all the other players in this segment.
I finally saw the newly facelifted 7-Series today too, not that much change at first glance, but it does look better. It still doesn't make the eye list though.
Also, I'm surprised you don't see a lot of Audis where you are. I'd think they'd be real popular considering their all year capability. I'm betting that Audi dealer you speak of won't be there much longer. Audi has revamped every dealership here, except one over the past 2 years.
#9562 of 24726 Re: 2007 S Class [merc1]
May 25, 2005 (6:33 am)
I see a lot more Audi in Conneticut and Wesrchester county. But if you talk to people, many opted for Audi because of the AWD. A4's were very popular in my old West Chestter county office and a few people who worked for me had them. But they were really problematic. A8's are really rare where I am. I've only seen a handful here in all the years I've lived here. I see that many S-class, LS430's and 7-series, particularly the first two, within minutes of getting in my car and driving. While 7's are fairly popular they are far less in number than the LS and S. But the X5, 5's and 3's are enormously popular around here. The ML has seemed to die. It was popular at its onset. TLC's and LX470's are also very popular here. But everything pales to the RX which you see around every turn
The Audi dealer near me is also Land Rover. I wonder if Audi has a lot of control there. I'll have to drive by and see if they upgraded. About a year ago it was as horrenbdous as ever. Lexus and MB have powerful first class dealerships here as does BMW (though they are a step below). That definitely influences buyers.
May 25, 2005 (7:11 am)
Someone asked awhile ago why diesel prices are higher than gasoline. The WSJ has an article today http://online.wsj.com/search#SB111697347930142274 on the subject.
Basically, (1) alot of demand from China and India, and (2) less price elasticity...when energy prices go up, at the margin some people will drive their gasoline cars less, but that doesn't happen as much on the diesel side because much of the demand is from trucking and those guys keep right on driving.
Things will start to get worse in the fall as some refining capacity is temporarily shut down to convert to low-sulphur diesel in time for the 6/06 deadline.
#9564 of 24726 RX330 Performance Package
May 25, 2005 (8:04 am)
I am trying to find out information on the RX330 Performance Package. I have read that it improves handling, but that it will not make it like one of its German counterparts, nor will it improve acceleration.
No dealer seems to have one on the lot, so I am having to rely on some posts to determine whether the affect of the package warrants some extra dough.
#9565 of 24726 Re: 2007 S Class [ljflx]
May 25, 2005 (10:21 am)
Yes, you definately see alot more Audi's in Connecticut for example. I guess the hilly terrain is a major driver of Audi Sales. Also alot of Saabs are visible in Connecticut.
#9566 of 24726 Re: GS 300/430 [stroudman]
May 25, 2005 (7:37 pm)
Exactly!!! That is one of the reasons I love Benz, their stellar turning radius. Most people who ride in my car and are not a Benz owner, are quite surprized by this when I flip u-turns.
#9567 of 24726 Re: 2007 S Class [ljflx]
May 25, 2005 (10:29 pm)
Yeah I'd always been told that the North East was a haven for Saab, Volvo and Audi.
I'd bet anything that the Audi/Land Rover dealer you speak of is under pressure from both Audi and Land Rover to just plain die and/or seperate. Both Audi and Land Rover have revamped their dealerships in a lot of areas.
#9568 of 24726 740 iL Questions
May 26, 2005 (3:25 am)
I'm looking at a 2000 740 iL and would like just a tad bit more seat travel backwards on the drivers seat. I heard it is possible to remove a clip and get an extra inch of travel??? Has anyone done this? Is there a down side to this modification that will cost me later...or is there a reason not to do it? Room is not a concern in back......Also, what do you folks think the line in the sand is in terms of cost of extended warranty? Nissan dealer offering 3/36 bumper to bumper for $3.5K (backed by Nissan). I'm guessing I could easily spend this amount in repairs over the next 3 years (car has 55k miles)...so I'm thinking it is worthwhile. Is there a better after-market warranty? I have all maint records from local BMW dealer, and don't see any glaring historical issues. Thanks in advance...
#9569 of 24726 Re: 740 iL Questions [tiny1]
May 26, 2005 (5:30 am)
I did it on my 530. Takes all of 10 seconds. I canít imagine it being much different on the 7. Open the back door, get on your knees and look for the clip at the top-rear of the right-side rail that the seat rides on. Pluck it off with a screwdriver or pry it with a plier. You can easily replace it if desired, it snaps right on.
I was rather cramped until I removed it. I got about another two inches of seat travel. I donít know why they have it to begin with. My guess is that extreme seat travel puts you out of the side head airbag range.
#9570 of 24726 Re: 740 iL Questions [tiny1]
May 26, 2005 (8:52 am)
I would rather have the warranty from the BMW dealer instead of the Nissan dealer. $3500 is a lot of $$$$ for a 3/36 warranty. You should be able to get one for under $2K if you try harder and look around. Do a Google search for extended warranty... BTW, what could go wrong within 85K miles (amount of total miles covered by the 3/36 you are looking to purchase) ? Most will be scheduled maint. costs... 60K and 90K miles, which are not covered by the warranty. Have you checked on the Edmund's BMW board on specific issues with the 2000 7-series ? That way you can forecast the out-of-pocket cost v warranty cost on yours, roughly speaking...