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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#852 of 24723 ljflx
Mar 14, 2001 (3:28 am)
Yeah I know....I'm star-crossed, propeller-driven and ringed-around. Get it, MB, BMW and Audi.
Yes in my opinion the new CL (not the CLK) is the best looking Mercedes of my short lifetime. It is simply gorgeous, and looks nothing like a Mustang. A Mustang has scoupes and such, the CL has nice clean lines, with a roofline to die for. To me the really good looking Mercedes in the recent past were the old 300CE/E320 Coupe, the still current SL and going back further the W126 S-Class, the old 420/560SELs of the time, of course the W124 E-Class from 1986-1995. Timeless. These cars still look great today. You can't say that about too many other companys early 90's and 1980's cars.
Yes Dennis I was talking about the top-of-the-line coupe the CL. The CLK looks good to, but it should have been pillarless like the CL. Now I hear that the next CLK (2004) is supposed to mimic the CL like the new C did the new S, we'll see. The CL's roof and pillarless design is what makes it oh-so good looking. (On the blackmail, duely noted).
#853 of 24723 Pablo
Mar 14, 2001 (8:55 am)
You've got plenty of company. I stayed fully invested as well and seem to be in about the same nest egg situation as you. The only major thing I did was shifted out of the small to medium tech's and into the large caps which saved me some money - though I stayed away from Cisco which is still over-valued. My logic being that's the group that will come back first - though I made that move when the Nasdaq was at 3000. Since I defer my bonuses every year (we have a rabbi trust deferred comp plan) I have a significant amount in pre-tax which I can move around without tax consequnces which for me made this even more painful as I could have gone into cash and bonds very easily. Hang in there,we may go as low as 1800 but that should be the absolute bottom. On the other hand I was wrong before thinking the floor was 2100. Boy did Greenspan screw up.
Anyway just keep your purchase commitments particularly as they relate to luxury items like these cars based on disposable income and you can weather anything. Good luck!
Mar 14, 2001 (1:42 pm)
Actually, I recall seeing two sets of figures -- one for quality and the other for productivity. The one for quality was automotive-related and the one for productivity was for all workers, I believe (two entirely different reports, probably from two different sources). Mind you, this was a year ago or so, so what the figures are right now I have no idea. However, unless something catastrophic has happened, I doubt that American workers have retured to the bad days of the 70s when labor and management were at each other's throats on a daily basis -- with the inevitable effect on quality and productivity.
Re the CL vs CLK -- I like the CL, it's certainly pleasant and MUCH better looking than its predecessor -- but the CLK is so slick it hurts me to look at it. Love that Italian styling, I do (even though it's not Italian).
Mar 14, 2001 (1:48 pm)
I agree, the new CL is to die for. I briefly considered it, too, but I saw them way too late and the waiting list was utterly ridiculous. I am not waiting 2 friggin' years for no car, because I know in the meantime I'll see something else I'll like just as much or more come to market. An acquaintance of mine, a venture capitalist, has a CL600, and it drives incredibly well, and is slick as a greased eel. The interior, in the best of neo-German tradition, is a bit too clinical for my taste, though. Clean, superbly comfortable, but still a bit on the cold side. But what a car! Definitely a classic.
#861 of 24723 Folks, please
Mar 14, 2001 (2:24 pm)
Let's just stick to the cars - there is NO reason to criticize others' posts. You don't have to like what you read, but you also DON'T have to respond.
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