High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#7736 of 24700 Re: Thinking out loud [oac] by michael_mattox Feb 18, 2005 (9:37 am)
Replying to: oac (Feb 17, 2005 10:47 pm) Very well said To the point and lays it out right on the money..At least in my Opinion.
#7737 of 24700 Re: MB diesels [syswei] by michael_mattox Feb 18, 2005 (9:41 am)
Replying to: syswei (Feb 18, 2005 9:23 am) Sweet Crude (low Sulphur) is more expensive ..It is generally what you get from the Arabric countries...as opposed to Alaska Oil which is high Sulphur....Japan uses the High Sulphur oil if I am not mistaken. Our industry is geared for the Sweeter Crude.
#7738 of 24700 Re: brightness04 [merc1] by michael_mattox Feb 18, 2005 (9:51 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Feb 17, 2005 11:48 pm) Merc: Your comment about Aluminum and what Brightness said is totally unfair and incorrect....He has pointed that out to you, yet you continue to come back to the same OLD LINE over and over again..Not Nice, Not accurate and Not very Honest on your part. TO BE CLEAR...He said Aluminum is less save then Steel...not that the A8 is less safe then an LS or any other specific car...Reason being Aluminum is more brittle and because of that doesn't Crumple as well as Steel...it also has a lower burn point then steel. (This is from memory and if brightness thinks I have misquoted him I hope he will correct me.) I personally know nothing about the Properities of Aluminum but it seems Brightness does...and You have not posted anything to factually refute what he has said. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Feb 18, 2005 9:59 am) michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 10:09 am) kyfdx (Feb 18, 2005 10:22 am) and 3 more... brightness04 (Feb 19, 2005 2:50 am) syswei (Feb 19, 2005 6:50 am) denaliinpa (Feb 19, 2005 6:58 am) and 1 more... brightness04 (Feb 19, 2005 2:36 am)
#7739 of 24700 Re: brightness04 [michael_mattox] by kyfdx HOST Feb 18, 2005 (9:59 am)
Replying to: michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 9:51 am) Nothing to refute.. Just because steel in its raw form is heavier than aluminum, doesn't mean that anything brightness04 said about it is correct.. Why refute a point that hasn't been made?.. I've seen nothing that implies any special knowledge or experience about aluminum.. other than maybe his soft drink comes in an aluminum can.. And, unless it implies something about the relative safety of the Audi A8, itself, then what possible relevance could it have? Just a way to snipe at the Audi, if you ask me.. regards, kyfdx Replies to this message: michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 10:09 am) kyfdx (Feb 18, 2005 10:22 am) michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm) and 2 more... brightness04 (Feb 19, 2005 2:50 am) syswei (Feb 19, 2005 6:50 am) denaliinpa (Feb 19, 2005 6:58 am) brightness04 (Feb 19, 2005 7:08 am)
#7740 of 24700 Re: Lexus...brand vs reality [denaliinpa] by michael_mattox Feb 18, 2005 (10:02 am)
Replying to: denaliinpa (Feb 18, 2005 5:53 am) Hmmmmmm Has Rolls and Bentley gone to AWD...Are most S Class Mercedes AWD? I believe RWD is the traditional configuration for Most LUX CARS... My comment was made because you seemed to be fixated on Horse Power...and Speed...LEXUS LS is faster then the Audi A8...
#7741 of 24700 Re: brightness04 [kyfdx] by michael_mattox Feb 18, 2005 (10:09 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 18, 2005 9:59 am) kyfdx: It does say something about the relative safety of the A8...It says that car would be Safer and less costly to repair if it were made of Steel. Brightness said Aluminum is more Brittle then steel...do you have any knowledge that it is not? Brightness said that Aluminum Burns at a lower tempture then Steel...Do you have any knowledge that it does not? Birghtness said that Aluminum is more expensive to repair then steel...Do you have any knowledge that it is not? I noticed YOU did not give anything to refute the comments by Brightness...If you disagree show us something. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Feb 18, 2005 10:22 am) michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm) denaliinpa (Feb 18, 2005 4:53 pm) and 1 more...
#7742 of 24700 Purpose of hybrid by designman Feb 18, 2005 (10:19 am)
Although improved emissions come with hybrid technology, less dependency on fossil fuel is the major consideration. Not that anyone said otherwise. It seems BMW is really dawdling with this. They have to get their butt going. Replies to this message: syswei (Feb 18, 2005 10:45 am) oac (Feb 18, 2005 12:08 pm)
#7743 of 24700 Re: brightness04 [michael_mattox] by kyfdx HOST Feb 18, 2005 (10:22 am)
Replying to: michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 10:09 am) You are correct... I don't have any knowledge to refute any of those things. (Except that it is more expensive to repair.. I know aluminum is worth more than steel.. refer back to my aluminum can comment). But, I haven't heard anything from brightness04 that makes me think he knows much about it, either.. Because, if he did know much... we'd hear something specifically about the aluminum body panels on an Audi vs. steel on a Lexus.. and not some irrelevant babble about lower ignition temperatures... So, I disagree that any of brightness04 claims have anything to do with the safety of the Audi A8.. Regardless if they are factual or not... If you want to discuss the properties of aluminum vs. steel, perhaps there is some sort of chemical/metallurgical website you could visit.. Because, nothing stated about it so far, has anything to do with cars... To sum up yours and brightness 04's arguments: Lexus... GOOD All others.. BAD That should just about wrap it up for you... what are you going to talk about now? regards, kyfdx Replies to this message: michael_mattox (Feb 18, 2005 4:15 pm) denaliinpa (Feb 18, 2005 4:53 pm) oac (Feb 18, 2005 5:46 pm)
#7744 of 24700 Up, down, round and round by designman Feb 18, 2005 (10:40 am)
Ah, let them all shake the brand pom poms. My car is better than yours... round in circles... yaddy yadda. Ljflx... I always enjoy your marketing takes. What's your 5-year prognosis for all of the brands in question here?
#7745 of 24700 pom poms by pat HOST Feb 18, 2005 (10:45 am)
Thanks designman, all this "my car/brand is better than yours" is headache-making and certainly not convincing anyone of anything. Let's move on with other conversation.