Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#6235 of 24726 Re: max [lexusguy]
Jul 21, 2004 (10:43 am)
"Exactly. Audibob, have you noticed that Audi residual is worse than both BMW and Mercedes, and far worse than Lexus? An '00 A6 4.2 is currently worth less than 1\2 of its new MSRP. "
WHAT???? Let see what Edmunds Says:
2000 Merc E320 (Devalued $41 k Dep, Mant, etc)
2000 BMW 528 (Devalued $41 k Dep, Mant, etc)
2000 Lexus LS430 (Devalued $44 k Dep, Mant, etc)
2000 Audi A6 4.2 (Devalued $41 k Dep, Mant, etc)
PS: $25,900 is the edmunds resale for this car...hmmm....The current price in todays money is $49,500. Factor that the car initially cost less 4 years ago, and your other statement is faulty too.
THIS TIME WITH FACTS THAT I CAN VERIFY PLEASE.
#6236 of 24726 audibob
Jul 21, 2004 (10:43 am)
You're the expert - what's thes ales volume of A8's in the US. I've seen 2000-2400 for the old model with a pickup to the 4,000 range with the new. The latter will likely fall right back by next year to its normal spot. Saw that data in many places including many posted on this website. There was an Audi salesman on the Phaeton board who said - in a post - his boss groaned everytime an A8 was due in.
Sticker - every Audi - now you are really making yourself look bad.
Jul 21, 2004 (10:50 am)
How about Number of sales on the A-8 and web sites to back them up?
You seem to come to the table with a hand full of gimmy and a mouth full of much obliged
#6238 of 24726 Re: audibob [ljflx]
Jul 21, 2004 (10:53 am)
Hey all you angry lexus owners trying to validate you ideology, what do you think about edmund rating the LS400 at the hightest cost to own???
#6239 of 24726 Re: [michael_mattox]
Jul 21, 2004 (10:56 am)
michael_mattox Jul 21, 2004 (2:41 pm)
Bob: How many you ask...The problem is NoBody cares.
Make up your mind on what you want Michael, or is you desire just to argue?
Jul 21, 2004 (10:56 am)
Don't worry, dude, you're even funnier!!
How do I have access to soo many cars? I have friends/relatives/co-workers who have many different types. I have many enthusiast nuts.
One friend of mine has had a 97/98 Z3 2.8 that he modified w:lightweight flywheel, exhaust, beefed up trans./18"Breyton wheels, Brembo brakes. Same guy later had 00 BMW 530i sport w/manual.
before that VW Jetta VR6. Currently, has a Volvo S60R. I have driven all of them as he leases and doesn't really care how it's driven.
ANother had the current gen. A4 Sport 6-speed for about 6 months, before that a MB C280(driven both).
One relative has a stable of Lexi' 95 ES, 00 LS400,
Father in law has a current gen. LS430, as well as a Benz ML320
Other relative has a previous gen. 7-series.
Otherwise, a friend works at Lexus NA in NJ. Been to ride and drive event with him in NJ where they Lexus products as well as competition. Driven them on a racetrack, slalom, wet braking, dirt braking, acceleration.
Sorry, I have better things to do than waste salespeople's time, even though when I do it is quite fun to waste their time and listen to them hype their products up. you know how it is, bump up the horsepower numbers, make the car faster in 0-60time, etc.
"How many times have you had your honda appraised? Only reason that I ask is that I'm in the industry on the retail end and I'm in and out of dealers everyday and attend manufacturers events often."
WHat does that have to do with my car? But yes I've had it appraised. Thought about purchasing a Acura TSX last year but it sucked.
#6241 of 24726 Re: [maxhonda99]
Jul 21, 2004 (10:59 am)
We are back to the "I want to be and owner, but just heard from the thousands of friends/relatives who own them" club.
Jul 21, 2004 (11:01 am)
I am not so selfish as to think there may be someone who would like to see the Numbers....It doesn't seem there is anyone here who would actually want to buy one. Certainly not at sticker.
But, I could be wrong.
#6243 of 24726 Re: [maxhonda99]
Jul 21, 2004 (11:12 am)
"Thought about purchasing a Acura TSX last year but it sucked. "
Yep. I agree with you.
Jul 21, 2004 (11:13 am)
Even Cadillac has better value than Audi, just look at 2003 CTS Vs. A4 used Values.
TSX=Accord with leather & Navigation