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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#6024 of 24723 How Many 1996 750il's Manufacured?
by thomsonc
Jul 18, 2004 (10:06 am)
I am close to purchasing a 1996 750il and I was curious to know if anyone knew where I might find figures on the number of 750's and 740's produced each year by BMW. I had heard from someone an incredably low number on 750's produced for that year but it seemed too low in my opinion.
Also, does anyone know the difference between the 750il for 1995 & 1996? Thanks.
#6025 of 24723 Every company builds cars that work without unscheduled service but ...
by footie
Jul 18, 2004 (10:12 am)
An individual car or truck doesn't tell the tale in the marketplace, statistics taken from a significant population do, because being a relevant measure of many buyer's experiences they are a good predictor of likely ownership in general.
Every company builds cars that require service, but the frequency that buyers experience differs substantially from manufacturer to manufacturer and therein lies the tale.
Results continue to show that Toyota/Lexus and Honda simply build more cars percentage-wise that require less unscheduled service than others. Unfortuately for their buyers, VW builds more cars that have more problems than anyone except Range Rover.
Based on the statistics for VW, you've been more fortunate than others.
#6026 of 24723 Re: Lexus vs Benz [flkey] & fuel filler [dieselbreath] [michael_mattox] [dieselbreath]
by michael_mattox
Jul 18, 2004 (11:33 am)
Diesel
I get 500 miles on a tank of gas...and my car doesn't pollute the environment. So not only am I in a safety nut car that doesn't break down but all the people that are around me are a little safer from harmfull fumes.
Jul 18, 2004 (11:45 am)
Diesel:
Interesting insight into how BMW (and perhaps other german companies) treat their customers...
Luckly (I know hard for a BMW owner to understand)at Lexus There is little that happens to their cars since they are so well engineered and built..
There was even someone on this thread who said a relative who was a mechanic for Lexus quit to get a job with a German company because it was so boring just doing basic service at Lexus. Sort of like the Maytag repairman.
#6028 of 24723 Mattox, et al: Broken record
by warthog
Jul 18, 2004 (11:50 am)
I don't recall a single BMW fan or MB fan on this board, or any of the related boards, denying the superior reliability of Lexus. So why do you keep telling us about it? I'd rather hear about gas filler placement.
#6029 of 24723 Re: Is it hot in here? [dieselbreath]
by michael_mattox
Jul 18, 2004 (11:55 am)
Dieselbreath:
There are probably people that have bought vw/audi that have never had a problem...BUT...When I buy a car I don't want to participate in some kind of lottery and have to HOPE I Get a good one.
#6030 of 24723 Re: Dieselbreath [designman]
by topspin628
Jul 18, 2004 (11:56 am)
Norton AKA Art Carney of Honeymooners fame. What exactly did I win?
Good to see Hamilton come back from the choke on 18 the first time.
#6031 of 24723 Re: Mattox, et al: Broken record [warthog]
by michael_mattox
Jul 18, 2004 (12:01 pm)
warthog:
OK....Gas filler...Back in the old days 50s and 60s they often did put them in the middle sometimes they would hide them behind the tail light. They don't do that any more and probably for a good reason.
#6032 of 24723 Mattox: Too funny
by warthog
Jul 18, 2004 (12:15 pm)
Yes, I recall my parents' 1956 Imperial with the taillight filler cover. There was a little round light in the center that served as the button to spring the cover.
BTW, the button was 100% reliable.
#6033 of 24723 Re: Lexus vs Benz [flkey] & fuel filler [dieselbreath] [michael_mattox] [dieselbreath] [michael_mattox]
by dieselbreath
Jul 18, 2004 (12:44 pm)
I have a '98 Beetle TDI. In case you've been on another planet for a few years, ALL tail-pipe emissions are pollution now. [CO2, warming, tornadoes/hurricanes/pine-beetles....]
So, the car that pollutes the least is the one that consumes the least fuel (in general terms), thus my car is the least polluting that you could buy in North America in 1998.
PS: "Öko-Trend", the European equivalent of the Sierra Club, recently gave their award for the most environmentally safe family car. And it went to ... the Toyota Prius? No. It went to the Passat TDI.
Its too bad so many people in North America are completely clueless on the realities of modern diesel power-plants (based on technology invented by Audi a decade ago and adopted by BMW, MB, ...)
I'd have expected better from Edmunds readers.