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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#5980 of 24723 Re: [livinbmw]- WRONG AGAIN???
Jul 16, 2004 (1:50 pm)
Think again livinbmw,
Thru 1st half of 2004:
Both of these numbers are from their respective press releases on 7/1/04.
Better yet, BMW had 3 new or redesigned products for 2004, the 5-series, 6-series, and X3 and sales have only increased 5% over the same time in 2003. Meanwhile with the supposedly cushy cars that nobody wants(and that are unsturdy, bland, chick cars) Lexus increased sales 17% over the same time and with the only new product being the RX330.
Jul 16, 2004 (1:56 pm)
Hmmm ... all of you who keep quoting sales figures would be far more credible if you'd just link to your source. Dunno why that's so hard.
Jul 16, 2004 (2:25 pm)
Wow, apparently people must like the '04 LS430, even though its an unsturdy boring yawn box.
#5985 of 24723 Sales figures........
Jul 16, 2004 (2:30 pm)
I sat in a typical regional sales meeting in the mid 90's with a very successful toyota dealer principal and he interrupted this poor sales manager fellow and walked up to this eraserboard and wrote down one word and said that this is all I care about. "Now let's get the bleep out of here," he said. The word he wrote on the board was ... results.
Can't argue with Toyota/Lexus results.
McDonald's sells lots of Big Mac's, too.
Jul 16, 2004 (2:43 pm)
That was an interesting story about the S Class car. I'm not surprised, regardless of the stats, the S is a great car. I'm having to replace front end bushings on my 12 yr old LS400.He managed to get a warranty? I wonder how much that must cost.
I don't get all this talk about Lexus being excessively boring..Where exactly can you drive about 70 MPH anyway? I've never gotten about 80 around here..That's probably why I don't see the need for so much HP in these new cars.. The 250 HP in my LS400 is more than enough. If you live in an area with lots of windy roads, then I can see your point..
I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't mind giving those "I don't like SUV's Why do you?" board a run for their money on the number of posts. That would be really amusing.
#5987 of 24723 Call me a broken record
Jul 16, 2004 (2:47 pm)
but if you do, you have to keep it civil and on topic. No posts just for the sake of driving the post count up.
Jul 16, 2004 (4:03 pm)
He told me that the extended warranty cost him about 4K but that 150,000 is the max so now he's on his own. He said that he plans to keep the car another year or so and probably be at around 250k on it. Pretty impressive to me.