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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#516 of 24723 S-Class vs LS430
Jan 22, 2001 (8:41 am)
Well, I've been a Mercedes officianado since learning to drive in a 66 230SL. Up until the 2000 SC-lass, I think the cars have been the best engineered production vehicles in the world, and the increasing price reflected that. The previous SC-lass (W140) was unduly criticized for its size and bulk, but what an impressive vehicle. I did notice a decontening in that car from 1993 until 1999 model year, but still the car was awesome and impressive. The new SC-lass (W220) is a joke. I REALLY wanted to love the car. Yes, I think the styling is very sleek, but the interior is so cheap that it barely qualifies as a Korean car. The S600 does provide a bit more "elegance" but at a huge price. Mercedes built this car to a price point, whereas before the cars were built to the dream of the engineers. I realize that BB needs to make money and needs to sell more cars, but I would have hoped there would have been more of a compromise between price point and engineering. someone BB, hard plastic should NOT be a part of an SC-lass interior. Cover it up with soft materials for goodness sake. I am afraid that Lexus with their LS430 has increased their luxury quotient and the SC-lass has DEFINITELY lowered theirs. Very sad to see that happen, very sad indeed. If I were in the market for a sedan, the choices are the S-Class, LS430 and the NEW Jaguar XJ sedan that will be coming in a couple years. Friends, I am here to tell you, that car is going to outdo the S-Class, and priced closer to the LS430, I am afraid it will steal customers away from Lexus as well. The car is said to be a technological marvel and the body will be all aluminum and of course a more comfortable interior with those luscious Jaguar curves on the exterior. So, I would probably wait for the Jag. Barring the jag, if I could pull my head out and get over the "prestige" factor, I would choose the LS430, albeit with the full lux package.
MB can do it, they did a fine enough job on my CL500, which I do love and though the interior isn't up to the level of the previous generation coupe, it is yards ahead of the S-Class, possibly because of its full leather interior and my color choice of black, which can hide a multitude of sins in an auto interior.
Whichever car anyone chooses, it should suit their needs and desires, that's all that matters really. For me, I am just saddened to see Mercedes become just another car manufacturer. Guess that leaves Rolls-Royce, Bentley as cars to stive for as snob appeal.
#517 of 24723 Misspelling - sorry
Jan 22, 2001 (8:42 am)
That should have been SC-lass, not SC-lass. Sorry.
#519 of 24723 cjneedham
Jan 22, 2001 (7:40 pm)
Sure Mr Needham , next serious post by an adult ( not some teenage kid ) that has something relevant to say please ?
#520 of 24723 New, and Looking Around
Jan 23, 2001 (9:10 am)
I am in the shopping phase for a "new" car. I'm 22, and have had 9 different used cars in the past 6 years. Right now, I have a 1999 Kia Sportage EX, and like it well enough, although the payments are too high for the car. It's a good enough car, but not something I think I can keep for 10 years, and love. My parents have always had Mercedes Benz's, and have advised me to invest in something German. I used to have an old, beat up WV, which ran GREAT, but was a little too rusty to suit a 17 year old!
My question is this: I have found a 1988 BMW 750iL for sale for$10,9, with only 76,000 miles on it. Is this a deal worth looking into? (Mercedes seems more expensive for me right now. I'll hold out for a nice, used ML320 in a couple of years.)
Does anyone out there have this car, or anything to say (good or bad) regarding this car? Is maintenance super high on them? We have an old family friend who repairs MBZ's and BMW's, so I think I'll be okay there..... I hope.
Any help or information would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks so much!
#521 of 24723 2001 S class
Jan 26, 2001 (9:49 am)
I have been fortunate to own several new Mercedes over the years. The last 5 have all been new I class sedans. With each car I have witnessed a slight decline in quality. My current I class is further evidence of declining quality. Whatever the reasons, Mercedes has decided to shelve quality, expecting their reputation to keep them afloat. What BB does not realize is that BB may be gaining first time buyers but they are losing existing owners. I will not purchases another B.
#522 of 24723 Never heard of I Class, and what is a BB?
Jan 26, 2001 (9:54 am)
I've never heard of an I Class before. And, what is BB?
#523 of 24723 I Class and BBs
Jan 26, 2001 (11:28 am)
The spell checker thinks that MB is a BB and the S class is really the I class.
#524 of 24723 Recent 740i purchase
Jan 29, 2001 (1:23 pm)
This is my first time on. I just purchased a 1998 740i w/ 56K miles for 30K. No warranty, but appears to be in excellent cond. Unbelieveable car so far as I can tell. The ride is so much better than I even expected, however, I have never owned a "luxury" car before. A couple of questions. 1) Does anyone know of a good warranty for a reasonable price or if they are even worth purchasing? 2) A little late, but does the price I've paid seem reasonable? There is a lot of conflicting info out there. 3) Are there any common problems I should be looking for and are there ways to avoid them if they exist? Thanks.
#525 of 24723 98 740
Jan 30, 2001 (8:04 am)
Well if you could do it all over again the best way to pick up a used 7 series is under 50k miles at the dealer. This way you are eligible for BMWs extended warranty out to 100k miles. Too late for that in your case, but I would seek out a warranty for this car. They are wonderful machines but they are very expensive to repair. The car doesn't really have any real glaring faults other than its complexity. I would bet if you paid $2000 or so for a warranty out to 100k that it would easily pay for itself. I would check with the dealer to see which aftermarket warranty companies they deal with.