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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#4842 of 24726 Vee Vill Vin!!!
Apr 27, 2004 (3:56 am)
Merc, I'll take the S55 over the CL. There are some moves you don't make with design. The reverse taper on the C column is one of them.
Can't let the chat go by without posting this from the New York Times article. I think DaimlerChrysler problems could be worse than anyone thought. And the "Benz in every garage" thinking is nothing short of megalomania. Is Schrempp one of those? Or did he innocently bite off more than he could chew?
"With Chrysler bleeding money in the United States, and Mercedes sputtering because of quality problems—a fact some critics attribute to the financial drain of its American sister—the pillars of the 1998 merger that created DaimlerChrysler are crumbling, one after the other."
Apr 27, 2004 (4:01 am)
62K is barely at the base price of the cars in this class. The STS is lacking in many other areas also compared to most cars in this group. The S-Class, 7-Series and A8 are priced much higher.
designman - The Benz in every garage was a statement made by a sales rep. Not anyone at DCX. That is the last time I post any salesman comments on this board..lol.
You don't like the CL's C pillar!!!! That is one of the most distinctive (gorgeous) elements of the car. Can't figure you out guy.
Apr 27, 2004 (4:10 am)
Were DaimlerChrysler's spectacular global plans the thinking of a lone salesman?
You can't figure ME out? You're the one who switched tastes to the 5-series.
Apr 27, 2004 (4:13 am)
"You can't figure ME out? You're the one who switched tastes to the 5-series."
Good point, I'm still in shock about that one. I guess I spoke too soon when I first saw pictures of the car as opposed to the real thing. I still don't think it looks as good as say the E-Class, but it isn't the ugly duckling like the 7-Series is, imo.
Apr 27, 2004 (5:35 am)
Function of what car you are looking for. If I'm looking for a sports car I like a racy look. Family lux sedan - I like the stately look. Pretty simple. I like the SL and SC for example and always liked the CCI. Never liked the NSX. Yes - I do like the CL very much. I like most MB designs though I think the E and C are too clonish. Even the C has grown on me, The two MB's I don;t like are the ML and the SLK. Sorry - add in the G class. I'll predominantly stay Lexus unless they go off course. It really is a wonderful experience but I also have no doubt I'll buy a sporty MB in the next few years and I also have no doubt MB will improve the quality in the next couple of years. I don't think they will ever get back to there earlier levels though. They can - but the cars would be priced too high.
#4847 of 24726 5 series
Apr 27, 2004 (5:41 am)
I can live with the overall shape of the new 5 but do not understand the trunk cut line on the rear quarter.
Eyelids over front headlights should be axed.
Those changes could be made very easily.
Car only looks good in black because of those cut lines.
#4849 of 24726 Here comes a rain cloud ...
Apr 27, 2004 (3:32 pm)
About posting pictures, there are a couple of things folks need to keep in mind.
If there is any chance a picture might be copyrighted by any entity other than Edmunds.com, you should not use the img src tags to display it - you should post a link to it instead.
You can usually find a statement on any website that explains how you may or may not use its content - that's what you need to check.
The other thing is that we still have a large population who view our discussions over a dial-up connection. Posting large pictures and/or many pictures makes it nearly impossible for these folks to follow our conversation.
A reader has a choice whether to follow a link and wait for a picture to display, but doesn't have that same choice when going to a page that is displaying the pictures themselves instead of the links to them.
My point is that links to pictures are much more "community-friendly" in several ways than are the img src tags.
Thanks for your understanding - feel free to email me with any questions.
'Scuse the interruption and please carry on!
Apr 27, 2004 (6:30 pm)
Not only that, the pix of the A8, 6, and 300C ruined my breakfast yesterday. I ate half of the Mylanta bottle after that abominable display. Throw in the Aston too... ain't the same.
There's something funky about the 300C though. It looks like it weighs 9,000 pounds and is the car I want to be driving if I'm gonna play chicken with someone. And for some strange reason I can picture it being shot to Swiss cheese in a Sopranos episode.